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03-14-2011, 03:13 PM
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| Most common answers on the SAT
So I saw someone on Yahoo! Answers suggesting that C was the most common answer choice on the SAT. I hear people say this all the time and it drives me batty, mostly because I'm afraid students will actually consider such misinformation actionable and fill in a bunch of C's. You deserve what you get when you do that, I know, but still I worry.
Anyway, I decided to spend some time this morning counting up all the choices in the Blue Book (leaving out Grid-Ins, obviously) to prove a point, and ended up proving the point much less firmly than I had hoped to. There's actually a fair amount of variability over what seems to me to be a big enough sample to mitigate most of the noise.
Here's a link to the data. https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?...kE&output=html
I don't really expect any of this to be useful information, but I did want to solicit your opinions on this, since this is a community of people who seem to think about the SAT as much as I do.
Also, I know there are some people on this board who are at university and still poke around here. I'm interested in hearing from someone who's taken a stats class more recently than me about statistical significance of, say, the infrequency of A. So, you know, if you wanna nerd it up with me, I'm up for that. PM me.
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03-14-2011, 03:33 PM
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lol do you have any hobbies, sports, or friends to entertain you? sorry but this is kind of extreme hahahaha |
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03-14-2011, 03:35 PM
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A fair question, to be sure. I get paid pretty well to be very good at the SAT, though. This is work, but I also kinda enjoy it.
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03-14-2011, 03:36 PM
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ya i was going to say this is kind of interesting though |
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03-14-2011, 04:32 PM
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A little while ago, I did a study of this question using 13 past (QAS) exams (math only).
The results are consistent with a uniform random distribution of answers, i.e., p(A) = p(B) = p(C) = p(D) = p(E) = 0.2.
For a total of 572 multiple choice questions, here were the letter frequency numbers and corresponding z-scores:
A 108 -0.67
B 116 0.17
C 119 0.48
D 120 0.59
E 109 -0.56
(expected value for each: 114 to 115).
You would need a z-score of more than 1.96 or less than -1.96 to say with a decent level of confidence that these letter frequencies are NOT uniformly random.
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03-14-2011, 04:43 PM
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Actually, little do most people know, each SAT has a secret code built into the answers. If you get the first 5-6 right in the section, it should only take you 10-15 minutes to crack the rest of the code. In June 2007, they used the Fibonacci Sequence (alphabetical with the usual encoding exclusions, of course) for most of the Writing section, but it was too obvious; that's why so many people got 760-800 on the June 2007 Writing. But there is suspicion that people knew ahead of time because a North Korean stole the code.
I was able to crack my last Reading one (ha, and who says Tuvaluan history never came in handy), but screwed up the code on one of the math sections. For the essay, I went with the ol' binary bypass, but the computer picked up the 874th 0 as an O, so I didn't get a 12.
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03-14-2011, 04:47 PM
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Wait, I thought the code was the digits of pi (mod 5)!
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03-14-2011, 04:49 PM
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Wait, I thought the code was the digits of pi (mod 5)!
| Nah, they tried that November 2008, but just once; nearly as obvious as the whole Fibonacci fiasco.
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03-14-2011, 05:11 PM
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I don't know stats, but I just had some fun at random.org asking for sets of 1600 integers from 1-5 (link: RANDOM.ORG - Integer Generator)
Here were my results:
1st Run:
1: 326
2: 311
3: 336
4: 305
5: 322
2nd Run:
1: 315
2: 338
3: 309
4: 314
5: 324
3rd Run:
1: 294
2: 323
3: 322
4: 328
5: 333
4th Run:
1: 329
2: 321
3: 360
4: 291
5: 299
The first three runs were fairly even, but the fourth was even more lopsided than the Blue Book analysis, and it was generated by completely random atmospheric noise!
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03-14-2011, 05:14 PM
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Atmospheric noise isn't random; the aliens are trying to contact us.
Unless... College Board... is... Oh my God.
Run.
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03-14-2011, 05:21 PM
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I guess I deserve the ribbing for going so aggressively public with my nerdery this morning. Thanks, though, fignewton, for admitting that you've also done something similar before.
I wasn't expecting any surprising results, but the difference of 50 between A and D raised my eyebrow a tad. After having a look at buffalowizard's post...not as surprising as I thought.
Thanks guys!
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03-14-2011, 07:44 PM
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Nothing too nerdy about this at all! Some related nerdery: pick up any section, look at the answers and you will find things like: 12 in a row with no 'd', only 2 e's in an entire section...other similar weird stretches -- and these are all completely normal. People just don't expect weird sequences as often as they come up.
I forget where I read this, but it seems related: ask half the students in a class to flip a coin 100 times and record the results, while the other half just pretends to flip coins, but actually just makes up a random string of 100 h's or t's. Then examine the data. You can usually tell who did the experiment vs who faked it. The fake data doesn not have as many weird strings: runs of lots of h's in a row say. For example, 5 in a row seems unlikely, but in a random set of 100, it is actually more likely than not to have at least one such stretch.
Of course, that leads to a probability question, too hard for the sat: you flip a coin 100 times. What is probability that you do not get at least one stretch of 6 h's or 6 t's in a row?
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