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Grammar Question: "blank and 'I'" , "Who or whom"

azngamer54azngamer54 Posts: 705Registered User Member
edited May 2007 in SAT Preparation
I am confused when to use "I", or "me" in a sentence. I can never tell when to use which one. In this identifying error question :
"The friendly competition between my older sister and me"

It says me must be changed to "I". Can someone clarify when to you Me, or I. I always thought it would be my sister and i, my freind and i, or "sally and i".

I am also confused about the use of Who and Whom. When is each used? Help would be greatful!


Thanks!
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Replies to: Grammar Question: "blank and 'I'" , "Who or whom"

  • Miss SilvestrisMiss Silvestris Posts: 456- Member
    You never put yourself first! In a list of people, 'I' (aka you) is always put last. Me sounds a little too off.

    Me and I otherwise should be easy to place if you're a native English speaker. It's just that above rule that confuses people.

    Can't help you on who vs. whom though :P
  • BattlecruiserBattlecruiser Posts: 221Registered User Junior Member
    An easy way to remember "who vs. whom" is that "who" equals "he" and "whom" equals "him".

    "Who went to the store? He went to the store."

    "To whom does it belong? It belongs to him."
  • ChedvaChedva Posts: 19,426Super Moderator Senior Member
    Your source is wrong. If the clause begins with "between", the pronoun is always "me". An easy way to remember the rule with "between" is simply to use the plural pronoun. Would you ever say "the competition between we", or "Just between we"? No. It's "the competition between us" and "Just between us". The first person singular equivalent of "us" is "me".

    In other contexts, just take out the other person and see which pronoun sounds correct.

    Change "Sally and me went to the store" to "Me went to the store." Sounds silly, right? That's because the pronoun should be "I". "Sally and I went to the store." Adding Sally back in doesn't change the first person pronoun.

    Or "Dad took Sally and ? fishing" becomes "Dad took ? fishing." Which pronoun fits? Only "me".

    (You can tell that the misuse of the pronouns is one of my grammatical pet peeves!)
  • Miss SilvestrisMiss Silvestris Posts: 456- Member
    Ah, good point Chedva. Sorry, I'm thinking mostly in German grammar these days and my English tends to suffer for it.
  • laserprecisionlaserprecision Posts: 497Registered User Member
    Agree that your source is wrong. The subject of the sentence is the competition, so it has to use 'me' instead of 'I'
  • Atomicbomb22Atomicbomb22 Posts: 399Registered User Member
    ^^yeah I agree, it should be "me".

    Only use I at the end of a sentence when it implies "I [am]"

    E.g. He is a better engineer than I [am].
  • Tyler09Tyler09 Posts: 2,768Registered User Senior Member
    no he only posted part of the sentence so its I.

    "the competition between you and I" is the subject of the sentence, he didn't post the verb and rest.
  • Easton722Easton722 Posts: 466Registered User Member
    Tyler, you're wrong.

    if you switch it around:

    "the competition between you and I"
    to
    "the competition between I and you",

    you should realize that it should be ME
    because ME works both ways
    "the competition between me and you"
    "the competition between you and me"
  • azngamer54azngamer54 Posts: 705Registered User Member
    whoops sorry i copied the question down wrong lol. Thanks i understand now.
  • Tyler09Tyler09 Posts: 2,768Registered User Senior Member
    you're right easton, it is between you and me, not because it works both ways. but because between is a preposition, and prepositional phrases use object pronouns.
  • ChedvaChedva Posts: 19,426Super Moderator Senior Member
    It doesn't matter what the rest of the sentence is; "between you and I" is always wrong. If you use "between", you must use "me" (despite current usage to the contrary).
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