College Discussion

Go Back   College Discussion > College Admissions and Search > SAT and ACT Tests & Test Preparation > SAT Preparation

 
Welcome to College Discussion at College Confidential, the Web's leading discussion forum for college admissions, financial aid, SAT prep, and much more! You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, etc. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
   College Confidential is dedicated to providing the best free college admissions information available on the Web, through our many articles and this discussion forum.

This welcome message goes away when you register and log in!
Discussion Menu
Discussion Home
Help & Rules
Latest Posts
NEW! College Visits
NEW! Stats Profiles
Top Forums
College Search
College Admissions
Financial Aid
SAT/ACT
Parents
Colleges
Ivy League
Main CC Site
College Confidential
College Search
College Admissions
Paying for College
Sponsors
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-26-2005, 03:35 PM   #16
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 206
I don't understant third ed. pg 312, #9, with two overlapping circles inside a rectangle. The circles both have area of 10, with centers A and B. Basically, the circles overlap such that the circumference of each goes through the center of the other circle. The left side of circleB's circumference goes through circleA's center...and vice versa.

please help
irish_hopeful is offline  
Old 01-11-2006, 12:15 PM   #17
New Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 18
this has been very helpful! thanks!


www.flocabulary.com
clahkie is offline  
Old 02-19-2006, 11:30 PM   #18
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Northeast
Posts: 1,045
2nd ed./ 392 / 10 /
3rd ed./ 312 / 10 / Math Question From 10 Reals Red book (second Edition)
gcf101 is offline  
Old 02-19-2006, 11:44 PM   #19
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Northeast
Posts: 1,045
Once again:
a very good resource on "Real SATs" questions is on the "Study Hall" web site
http://www.studyhall.com/webpage2000/MainAnsSheet.html
gcf101 is offline  
Old 02-22-2006, 09:42 PM   #20
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Northeast
Posts: 1,045
2nd ed./ 288 / 25 / Math question
gcf101 is offline  
Old 06-23-2006, 01:27 AM   #21
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 51
1st edition/pg.276/question 23

Excluding rest stops, it took Juanita a total of 10 hours to hike from the base of a mountain to the top and back down again by the same path. If while hiking she averaged 2 kilometers per hour going up and 3 kilometers per hour coming down, how many kilometers was it from the base to the top of the mountain?
a) 8
b) 10
c) 12
d)20
e) 24
winzton is offline  
Old 07-01-2006, 08:36 AM   #22
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 382
if the answer's (C), I can tell you how I did it.
md4me is offline  
Old 07-01-2006, 11:32 AM   #23
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Chicago
Posts: 570
As md4me said, it's (C). And this is probably the way he/she did it, too....

If x = distance(km), base -> top of mountain, then
(x/2) + (x/3) = 10 or (5x/6)=10 or 5x=60
so... x=12.
optimizerdad is offline  
Old 08-30-2006, 11:15 PM   #24
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: India
Posts: 37
Q. IF the sum of 2 numbers is 18.how large will their product be(solve it using parabolas.)

urgent help required
maybells is offline  
Old 09-25-2006, 01:37 PM   #25
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 246
maybells:

As the problem is stated, it cannot be solved. There are infinitely many real numbers x,y such that x + y = 18. If, however, the problem aks you to *maximize* the product of the numbers, then it is very solvable.

Let's generalize and consider numbers that add to be S. In your problem, S = 18. If one number is x, then the other is (S - x). Thus, the product is

x(S - x) = Sx - x^2.

The problem then resolves itself into one of maximizing the quadratic f(x) = -x^2 + Sx. The quadratic term is negative, so therefore this one opens downward and the global maximum occurs at the vertex. There are two ways to find the vertex:

1) Set the derivative equal to zero and solve for x. In this case:

f'(x) = -2x + S
-2x + S = 0
-2x = -S
x = S/2

2) Remember accurately the formula from Algebra II stating that the x-coordinate of the vertex of ax^2 + bx + c is -b/2a. In this case, a = -1, b = S and c = 0; therefore, the x-coordinate of the vertex is

-b/2a = -S/[ 2(-1) ] = -S/-2 = S/2

So, if one number is S/2, then the other number is

S - S/2 = 2S/2 - S/2 = S/2.

Thus, the maximum product occurs when both numbers are exactly half of the target sum. In this case, S = 18, meaning both numbers should be 18/2 = 9.

hope this helps,
nilkn
nilkn is offline  
Old 04-03-2007, 08:40 AM   #26
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 313
nilkn wonderfuly said.
Beejay is offline  
Old 04-27-2007, 12:07 AM   #27
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Northeast
Posts: 1,045
Quote:
Q. IF the sum of 2 numbers is 18.how large will their product be(solve it using parabolas.)

urgent help required
It’s kind of late to give a hand 8 months later, but I thought a different interpretation might help with similar questions; no parabolas though were harmed while solving.
x + y = 18, y = -x + 18 ------ straight line parallel to y = -x.
xy = m, y = m/x ------- hyperbola.
The bigger m, the farther from the origin (0, 0) the branches of this hyperbola go.
When m reaches its maximum, the right branch of hyperbola is tangent to line y = -x + 18 (if we increase m, hyperbola “breaks away” from that line). Since both graphs y = -x + 18 and y = m/x are symmetrical about y = x, their point of tangency lies on y = x.
y = x and x + y = 18:
x = y = 9.
gcf101 is offline  
Old 06-30-2007, 01:21 AM   #28
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Northeast
Posts: 1,045
3rd ed. / 374 / 23 / Two math questions from the collegeboard red book :/
gcf101 is offline  
Old 08-14-2007, 11:33 AM   #29
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 398
2nd edition: Page 328 #25 (AKA: Nov 1994, Sec 1, #25)

The circle above has center 0, what is sufficient to determine the radius of the circle:

(It is a circle with radii P and R forming a right triangle and a Q on the circumfrence 1/2way between P and R)

I: Length of arc PQR
II: Perimeter of Triangle OPR
III: Length of Chord PR

I understand how I and II work, but how does the chord length help?

(Also, can we make a thread using only the test dates, sections, and numbers? I feel left out since I have the 2nd edition )
ali153 is offline  
Old 11-04-2007, 09:50 AM   #30
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 424
Can anyone explain the answers for pg. 291-292, 18 and 17 and pg 312, #9?
17) If s can't equal 0, then 1/6 / 2s =
The correct answer is s/3
18) X, y, and x+y/2 make up one triangle. On each side, a square is constructed. What is the sum of the lengths of the sides of the resulting 9-sided figure, in terms of x and y?
the correct answer for this one is 9x+9y/2
pg. 312 #9
quoted irish_hopeful
I don't understant third ed. pg 312, #9, with two overlapping circles inside a rectangle. The circles both have area of 10, with centers A and B. Basically, the circles overlap such that the circumference of each goes through the center of the other circle. The left side of circleB's circumference goes through circleA's center...and vice versa.

Last edited by Joe_L514; 11-04-2007 at 09:56 AM.
Joe_L514 is offline  
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

 


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:12 PM.


Copyright 2001-2008, CollegeConfidential.com, Inc., All Rights Reserved
SEO by vBSEO 3.1.0