Bustles

I'm not sure what "Obasam passage" is at this point but there was the passage about the woman from the countryside, and the poem about indoors people/outdoors people which was hella difficult...

deadmonkey34

Did the author of the Shakespeare poem intend to pick up an entirely new vein of writing? He was fed up with rhyme...

Also, the fetters were rhyme, correct?

I believe that the passage was intended as an aside to the audience, not sure.

And I put that he was not honored by his contemporaries as was Shakespeare

Lastly, the two eras were Shakespeares and his own?


Regarding the Maine grass poem...the last pararaph primarily described her as either a representative of an elemental human experience..or a typical New England countrywoman?

Harvey33

For the Dee double name irony question I said it was ironic that she was rejecting the name of the woman who made the quilt. I wasn't sure if it was nice, but it is ironic, because she cares so much about preserving the quilt and keeping the tradition alive that was passed down through all the Dees, yet she doesn't respect the name Dee. I was stuck between that and the fact that she thinks her name can change her actions, which is probably true, but didn't really appear anywhere in the text and definitely didn't seem like "the central irony".

The last answer on the test was that his love is more genuine.




Soo maybe this will make remembering stuff easier:

Love poem--guy doesn't show his sorrow because his love is too deep

Sleep poem--guy loves sleep

Shakespeare poem--guy is tired of writing plays or something

Quilt passage--Dee really wants quilts

Obasam passage-people in attic and find their grandfather's or someone's ID card and think about time

Indoor/outdoor passage--indoor people are more sensitive, which is a good thing

Woman in countryside--woman brings friend to special place, talks about a guy she loved who died.

rhyn0

Can we get a compilation going?

Olay

its not obasam..its OBASAN!!!!! I think it was about the past issues of the japanese-american internment camps...obasan= japanese word for grandma. hahaha i hate how people keep saying it was OBASAM...LOL.

Harvey33

Deadmonkey,

I said new vein of writing. Fetters were rhyme. I also wasn't sure about the "what situation might this passage fit" question, I think I said a playwright convincing another to stop writing, or something, but it was probably wrong and none of them made sense to me. I said that he was better than all of his contemporaries, but not as good as shakespeare, who he calls "greater", I think. And I said that the two eras were shakespeare's and his own.

For the Maine grass question, I said it was a unique pessimism, because it said "rarely do you see somebody this deeply pained and depressed happily walking around sweet-smelling flowers" or something, from which I drew, she is sad in an unusual way. But that was another one I was unsure of; I chose between it and an elemental human experience.

Bustles

I said that Maggie was self-denying because before she conceded that Dee could have the quilts, there was that whole bit about "with the attitude of anyone who never has anything reserved for her."

Also, the answer to the sonnet question was most DEFINITELY rhyming couplet. I put the "dumb duck, chattering pie" answer even though it ultimately didn't seem in line with the poem because the rest of the answers appeared totally irrelevant to me.

I also answered that Mama wanted Maggie to have the quilts because she thought she would use them better, evidenced by "as if all you could do with quilts is hang them" and "good! they should be used" as far as Maggie putting them onto beds.

Also said ambivalence...

I said melancholy... said narcotic about the poppy... tan and calloused in the last sentence... I said I, II and III for the "spiders are indelicate question," but that I knew was against my better judgment so I'll deal if I got it wrong.


About narcotic: Alll of my friends were like "no no, that answer choice was too literal!" But in this case I think it was supposed to be taken literally, because poppy as a narcotic LITERALLY puts people to sleep... but as a poison, doesn't it also? I had Wizard of Oz flashbacks for this question.

In the sleep passage, was light in contrast with the speaker's desire?

For the Dee question you mentioned, rhyn0, the answer was that she was rejecting the name of her grandmother or something like that I THINK... and yeah for the last question on the test I said what you said about the speaker feeling that his love is more genuine...

For the question about "scurf," I just laughed for a minute because I was like WHAT THE HELL? But then I chose "calloused" which I think is correct. Also, there was no contrast between communicativeness : uncommunicativeness, right? And... uh... I think for me the hardest question on the whole test was the one that was something like this:
The speaker feels that the "white hand" is that which is...
something
something
something
misguided
something

Misguided? Does that make any sense at all?

Urgh, I'm scared! When do grades come out?

Harvey33

Lol sorry Olay, I'm not cultured like that, and that was the one passage I really rushed through.

deadmonkey34

Here is what I am very sure about:

Dee was self-centered

Maggie was self-denial

Ironic because rejected name of person who made quilt

Ambivalence towards name

Increasingly angrier and story progresses

Doesn't speculate as to why she wants

Maggie will put them to good use

Author----

Not sure about any that I can think of

Sleep----

Light was antithetical to what he wanted

Personification and apostrophe

Most lulling

Soothing person of midnight

Critical Self-Examination

Light invited worldy woes

Poppy was a narcotic

More to come....

deadmonkey34

Yes I put misguided as well.

Also, does "tan and callused" make sense for what he talked about in a positive light?

Harvey33

Bustles,

Yeah I said sleep was in contrast with his desire, and I thought that mad good sense.

Didn't really get the scurf question...

And for the white hand question I think I put misguided, but I also think it might have been asking something completely different lol.

I agree with everything else you said.

deadmonkey34

I found the poem!!!! Prologue to Aureng-Zebe!!!!!!!!!!

Bustles

Good, consensus makes my heart lift out of the pit of my stomach a little bit (what literary device is THAT?!)

"Indoor/outdoor passage--indoor people are more sensitive, which is a good thing"

WHAT? I thought the whole point of the passage was that it's preferable to be outdoorsy... No?

Bustles

DeadMonkey--"Critical Self-Examination" What other options were there for that question? I don't remember it.

However, I agree with everything else you said.

"Deadmonkey,

"I said new vein of writing. Fetters were rhyme. I also wasn't sure about the 'what situation might this passage fit' question, I think I said a playwright convincing another to stop writing, or something, but it was probably wrong and none of them made sense to me. I said that he was better than all of his contemporaries, but not as good as shakespeare, who he calls "greater", I think. And I said that the two eras were shakespeare's and his own.

For the Maine grass question, I said it was a unique pessimism, because it said "rarely do you see somebody this deeply pained and depressed happily walking around sweet-smelling flowers" or something, from which I drew, she is sad in an unusual way. But that was another one I was unsure of; I chose between it and an elemental human experience."

I also said new vein of writing and fetters. I said an actor before the show because it refers to the author in third-person. I agree with you about the other two questions on this passage.

I didn't say unique pessimism although I don't remember what the other answer choices were, so I can't tell you what I did say. I did indeed choose elemental human experience.

deadmonkey34

The author sided more with being outdoorsy...