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Old 05-04-2008, 10:46 AM   #106
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I said feigned=pretended, and don't remember what I said for the joy could ne ver fully be expressed question... but I feel like my answer had "desire" in it. I think that was the most difficult passage for me.
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Old 05-04-2008, 10:46 AM   #107
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and i think one of the last missing passages

joy kogawa- obasan

the one about spiders/attic/prairie dust storms
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Old 05-04-2008, 10:48 AM   #108
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Oh, that was hard too... I think for the things hanging from the ceiling I said "indistinguishable objects that had disintegrated" although I was very tempted by "bats"... I didn't want to say that it was mangled spiderwebs with dead bugs in them because I couldn't visualize that... that question came down to intuition for me.

How many did you guys omit? I couldn't bring myself to omit any... I'm allergic or something.
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Old 05-04-2008, 11:26 AM   #109
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We need to make a compilation.
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Old 05-04-2008, 11:34 AM   #110
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DEE----
Dee was self-centered

Maggie was self-denial

Ironic because rejected name of person who made quilt

Ambivalence towards name

Increasingly angrier and story progresses

Doesn't speculate as to why she wants

Maggie will put them to good use


Author----
New Vein of writing

Fetters=rhyme

Actor talking as aside

Better than contemporaries, not as good as Shakespeare

Two eras=shakespeare’s as his own

Correct-stayed within established literary guidelines

Feigned=pretended



Sleep----

Light was antithetical to what he wanted

Personification and apostrophe

Most lulling

Critical Self-Examination

Light invited worldy woes

Poppy was a narcotic




A lot of these are questionable.
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Old 05-04-2008, 12:00 PM   #111
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Can you please tell me what the critical self-examination question was? I don't remember it at all...
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Old 05-04-2008, 12:02 PM   #112
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I ommited 3, I think I already know I got like 5 wrong so whoo hoo I have to take it again
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Old 05-04-2008, 12:07 PM   #113
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The critical self-examination question was something like: The narrator wants to be unconscious to escape from what? Another answer choice was guilt, and another was superficial curiosity. I wasn't really sure, but said critical self-examination because he created an image of his mind violently burrowing into his body or something.
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Old 05-04-2008, 12:13 PM   #114
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I omitted 2, and I know of like 2 or 3 I probably got wrong, but I guessed randomly on a few of the Obasan ones, so I probably got a bunch of those wrong. I'd take anything over 700, which you can get with up to like 10 wrong, so I am optimistic

If somebody wants to get a compilation going from the other four passages that would be awesome, I know some answers but am pretty spent.
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Old 05-04-2008, 12:24 PM   #115
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Ooh hm I think I also put critical self-examination then, it sounds familiar, unless there was an answer that had to do with escaping from reality...
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Old 05-04-2008, 01:50 PM   #116
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Updated compilation (w/ sources)

Dee---
Everyday Use* by Alice Walker

Dee was self-centered

Maggie was self-denial

Ironic because rejected name of person who made quilt

Ambivalence towards name

Increasingly angrier and story progresses

Doesn't speculate as to why she wants

Maggie will put them to good use


Playwright Author---
aurengzebe

New Vein of writing

Fetters=rhyme

Actor talking as aside

Better than contemporaries, not as good as Shakespeare

Two eras=shakespeare’s and his own

Correct-stayed within established literary guidelines

Feigned=pretended


Genuine vs Fake Lament---
Google Answers: Hard to find text of a poem

“Dumb swan…chattering pies” OR “Lillies smell worse than weeds”?

His love is more genuine



Maine Grass (Pennyroyal) ---
Sarah Orne Jewett Text Project

Bringing someone to special place

Her mood is melancholy

Elemental human experience OR typical New England woman?

Unique pessimism

“Twas but a dream with us” = Unfulfilled dream OR disappointment at fading love?

Tan Callous Experience---
Walking by Henry David Thoreau

Positive term is “tan and calloused”

No contrast between communicativeness: uncommunicativeness

Sleep---
636. To Sleep. John Keats. The Oxford Book of English Verse

Light was antithetical to what he wanted

Personification and apostrophe

Most lulling

Critical Self-Examination

Light invited worldy woes

Poppy was a narcotic

Poem had all elements of sonnet EXCEPT rhyming couplet


Obasan----

Old letters vs young face on ID

Ragged forms are “Corpses on spiderweb” OR “indistinguishable objects”

Spiders are indelicate I and II OR I, II and III

Past and present are interdependent






Feel free to discuss and debate.
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Old 05-04-2008, 02:18 PM   #117
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Thanks icecreamer,

Another one for the genuine vs. fake lament, the question is something like when the narrator says "And so pray think; or if you 'd entertain", what is he saying? And I answered that he was asking his love to try to accept that his love for her is too deep to be expressed through tears.

Again for that poem, there was a question that was like "what does the narrator think he is most like?" And I was pretty sure the answer was good wine, because in the poem he said that good wine didn't need to bring attention to itself or something.

Also there was a question regarding the image of the burning wood, don't remember exactly though.
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Old 05-04-2008, 02:23 PM   #118
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Also, for the Maine grass passage, unique pessimism was an answer choice that went with elemental human experience and typical New England woman. We aren't sure of the answer, I said unique pessimism.

But, I am fairly certain that the answer to a different question in that passage was "it showed the true depth of her suffering".

Another question in that passage was the one about how the woman is compared to some ancient woman or legend or something, and the question asks about this comparisons significance. I answered that it showed that her suffering is one that has always existed in humanity and that transcends time or something.
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Old 05-04-2008, 02:30 PM   #119
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i thought the spiders are indelicate was
I understatement of her feelings

and III in contrast to what the children say: "spiders are creepy" or something like that

i don't remember what II was but i didn't mark that
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Old 05-04-2008, 02:37 PM   #120
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Hate to repeat myself, but no one really answered my question when I last posted it.

Is this exam at all similar to AP Lang passages and exams? What would the primary differences be?

Thanks to anyone who can help me out.
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