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Old 05-09-2008, 05:24 PM   #31
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NRC ranks individual graduate departments, not overall undergrad. Washington Monthly uses very unique criteria (including research and service) that does not serve as a measure for the quality of undergraduate education; additionally, Harvard ranks #27 in this system....... Also, as in U.S. News and World Report, differences between Yale and Stanford are miniscule in Newsweek rankings.

People can argue about rankings for hours.

My point was that rankings cannot determine that Stanford is better than Yale or vice versa, which is what datalook is trying to claim. The differences are too small and everyone should really look at other factors than rankings when making college decisions.

Why should it matter that one school's graduate department is ranked ahead of the other (especially for undergrad)? In the end, we're all basically learning the same material. The difference comes from how engaging the professor was and not necessarily how many awards he or she has won.
I strongly believed that quality of teaching cannot be quantified by ANY ranking system.
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Old 05-09-2008, 11:09 PM   #32
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The biggest difference between Stanford and Yale is their way in changing the world.

Yale has changed the world through president Bush and president Clinton.

Stanford has changed the world through ground-breaking technology advancement in
radar, laser, microprocessor, GPS, internet, artificial intelligience, and etc.

I like Stanford's way.
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Old 05-11-2008, 06:05 PM   #33
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^thats the best post ive read in a while...haha soo true
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Old 05-11-2008, 07:32 PM   #34
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back to the original subject (not that this tangent isn't nice; it is)...
Yale (technically waitlisted, but out of HYPS, that was my last choice, so bleh ), Princeton, Berkeley, UCLA, UC Davis
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:48 PM   #35
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true datalook, but Stanford's achievements in each of those categories are vastly out-shadowed by Al Gore's invention of the Internet, as well as the facts that Al Gore was President Clinton's vice-president and Yale shaped President Clinton. Ergo, Yale invented the Internet
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Old 05-12-2008, 11:20 PM   #36
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Yale has changed the world through president Bush and president Clinton.
I hope this is sarcasm . I didn't detect it until the last sentence.
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Old Yesterday, 01:54 AM   #37
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Yale, Princeton, Cornell, Brown (waitlist), Oberlin, Vassar, Bowdoin and Reed.
Was torn between Yale and Stanford but then thought about that same world changing issue...
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Old Yesterday, 06:20 AM   #38
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Rankings are meaningless other than putting colleges and universities in general tiers: the intellectual seriousness and quality/intensity of undergraduate education is likely to be better at a Swarthmore or Pomona than HYPS, but a "small" college atmosphere, de-emphasis on nationally ranked athletics etc. won't be for everyone. Depending on fit, a bright and serious student will get to where they want to in life at any of these top schools.
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Old Yesterday, 11:15 PM   #39
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other than putting colleges and universities in general tiers: the intellectual seriousness and quality/intensity of undergraduate education is likely to be better at a Swarthmore or Pomona than HYPS
Non sequitur much?
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