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Old 11-04-2009, 06:38 PM   #1
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Does anyone know if early apps were up or down this year?

Some other schools have released data already-such as Duke-so I was wondering if anyone has seen whether Stanford is up or down this year and, if you know, please refer me to the link. Thanks.
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Old 11-04-2009, 06:56 PM   #2
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not to my knowledge but what were duke's numbers? app trends seem to be pretty universal
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:09 PM   #3
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Early apps at Duke were up by 32%--from about 1500 last year to over 2000. The article speculates about the reasons but one thought was that students were a bit anxious because last year was such a tough year and so they wanted to increase their chances of getting in. That early application, however, is early decision and it's binding, so I'm not sure you can draw any conclusions about what Stanford will look like from what happened at Duke. Let me know if you want to see a link to that article.
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:16 PM   #4
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well the last couple of years the increase was about the same for ivy's like cornell w/non binding early apps as stanford and yale, i realize there is a significant difference, but the mindset is consistant between those who app early to colleges with and without binding programs, people just want to increase their chances to the school of their dreams.
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:30 PM   #5
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I'm 95% sure that Stanford didn't release its numbers last year until decision time, so I doubt we'll get official results any time soon.

If I had to predict it now, though... It could go either way. The economic downturn combined with the lack of new publicity for Stanford's great financial aid (and some misleading news about their endowment drop) might lead to their first decrease in a while. On the other hand, the trend could just continue. We can only hope for the former...
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Old 11-04-2009, 08:51 PM   #6
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Overall apps are supposed to decrease across the nation. # of HS grads was supposed to peak with the college class of 2013.

Idk about Stanford SCEA
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Old 11-05-2009, 12:28 PM   #7
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Wow if apps go up by 32% then we're in for a beating with the acceptance rate...
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Old 11-05-2009, 03:34 PM   #8
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The ones with increasing numbers would have reported, like Duke did.
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:24 PM   #9
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let's just hope that stanford accepts more of its applicants this year.
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:54 PM   #10
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ewho: Not necessarily. Stanford's numbers increased last year, but they didn't report them, at least not this early.
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Old 11-06-2009, 07:07 PM   #11
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It is hard to tell. They would wait for the other HYPS to say something first. Last year Stanford had too many. Dartmouth just said that they have 3% increase in early applications.
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Old 11-06-2009, 11:58 PM   #12
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Just anecdotally, a lot of kids at my school applied Stanford SCEA - definitely more than last year. My guess is that it went up.
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Old 11-07-2009, 12:04 AM   #13
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jony- same.
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Old 11-07-2009, 12:06 AM   #14
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Oh well, it isn't like I had any real chance of getting in even if the early app numbers did not go up.
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Old 11-07-2009, 12:36 AM   #15
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Overall apps are supposed to decrease across the nation. # of HS grads was supposed to peak with the college class of 2013.
1. Those two statements have very little to do with one another. The second does not lend more than very, very weak support to the first.

(a) There might be a relationship if every high school graduate applying to college filed the same number of applications, or faced a strict (and low) limit on the number of permissible applications. But neither is true. A decreasing number of applicants will not translate into fewer applications if the remaining applicants apply to more schools. (By the way, I think the number of high school graduates peaked with the high school class of 2008, with a tiny decline in '09, followed by a cumulative decline of about 3% over six or seven years.

(b) There might be a relationship if a fixed percentage of graduating high schoolers applied to college. But, no, the percentage of high school graduates going to college has been increasing for three generations, and shows no sign of stopping.

(c) There might be a relationship if only U.S. high school seniors applied to college. But foreign students apply, too, in rapidly increasing numbers, at least pre-recession. China and India, in case you didn't notice, generate a fair number of applications. And even if their populations were declining (they're not), the number of applications to American colleges, starting from a small base, is likely to grow, and continue to grow, rapidly. Also, American 20-something, their wild oats spread already, often apply to go to college if they haven't been already.

2. The recession might cause applications to decrease. Or increase, since no one has anything better to do with his time.

3. We don't care about all applications in general. We care about applications at a very small number of selective colleges. And those for years have been increasing at a rate that far exceeds any population growth.
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