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Old 02-01-2006, 08:53 AM   #16
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Argentina

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I just saw the reference to Argentina and my vote would be for that over Spain as well.
Unless of course you happen to be Jewish.

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Security/6998.htm
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...argentina.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMIA_Bombing
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Old 02-01-2006, 11:11 AM   #17
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Interesting thread - I'm going throught the "application" process now, and it's a bit confusing with all the options out there. Any specific programs you'd recommend, either in Chile or Spain, for a very advanced speaker looking for as much immersion (and as less American influence) as possible? I want ALL courses to be at the local universities, in Spanish. I'm most likely to go to Spain, but I need a serious program with a very high language requirement and with not a lot of other Americans. For immersion purposes, Chile or Argentina might be better, but my area of study is European politics. In Spain, I've looked at Sweet Briar, Middlebury, Advanced Lib. Arts at CIEE (but CIEE seems to have a reputation of being exhorbitantly large and party-hardy). Anyone have experience with your kids applying directly as a visiting student to a foreign university? This may be a bit too adventurous, but is it worth considering?

I'm wondering what your daughter's area of study is and what courses will be offered in both programs. It does not seem to me that any of these programs put any emphasis on courses that will be taken, and course lists are scarcely available. Of course I don't plan to spend my year only studying, but I think it's an important part of study abroad that's not given nearly enough attention as the subjective "social" part.

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Old 02-01-2006, 11:42 AM   #18
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I'm from Argentina. Buenos Aires is a European city. Study abroad is very different no matter where you go, but it's worthy to try it.
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Old 02-01-2006, 12:24 PM   #19
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Look into the Hamilton program:

http://www.hamilton.edu/academics/hcays/

It is quite immersive with homestay living arrangements. The courses are all in Spanish with a good selection of courses specifically for the US students and the option of enrollment in any course for students with sufficient fluency. So, this would offer the opportunity to inch towards the direct enrollment approach without all of the challenges. As far as study abroad programs go, this one is at least a bit rigorous academically.

This is a competitive program and they do favor full-year applicants, so I'm not sure what the odds of admission are.
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Old 02-02-2006, 12:20 PM   #20
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I don't know anything about attending schools in foreign countries. what I worry about is this, civil rights. Chile is infamous for lack of civil rights. I also visited spain, and I was appalled at the complete lack of respect for americans. we were literally hit, things thrown at us, taken advantage of etc. maybe students would be treated differently. If my child were considering study abroad, places like chile and spain would probably be just a little above iran.
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Old 02-02-2006, 12:41 PM   #21
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Amith1, I just came back from Chile yesterday visiting extended family. This is my 7th visit since the 70's and I can honestly say that no one has ever thrown anything at me (!!) or disrespected me in any way. Chileans are a proud and cultured people and extremely welcoming of tourists. The scenery is breathtaking, the food is wonderful, and there's alot to do there culturally as well.
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Old 02-02-2006, 12:56 PM   #22
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Cornell has a very good study abroad website. It links many different programs by country to the program website. There were 7 separate programs for Chile and over 20 for Spain. The study abroad website is--
cuabroad.cornell.edu Hope this info is helpful. My d may be doing a study abroad next year in Florence. We think we'll pay her a visit.
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Old 02-02-2006, 10:42 PM   #23
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Okay... don't laugh! I'm the OP, and DD called and said "Now I'm thinking Ecuador, because the Chilean accent is little too aspirated." I guess I could start a new thread, or just throw up my hands and groan! LOL!
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Old 02-03-2006, 08:35 AM   #24
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Well- i found out in 2 minutes that there are 6 programs for Ecuador listed on the Cornell website. These are not Cornell programs just listed on their website so kids know about many of the various programs available. It is a "wealth of Information"--The website is
cuabroad.cornell.edu . If a more computer savvy person can do a direct link to the website, it may be helpful to others looking into study abroad programs. Thanks
I suggest you just pass the info over to your d and let her start checking out the various programs. There were 2 situations that came up which made me realize that my little girl was growing up and I did not have as much "influence" as before- 1-- is when she started checking out Study Abroad Programs. She took the lead and really didn't want too much advice on my part. The second is when she looked for an off- campus apartment. It's wierd and wonderful watching them grow and make their own decisions. Pass the study abroad link on to your daughter- it really does give a lot of info. Good luck.

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Old 02-03-2006, 06:55 PM   #25
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I suggest you just pass the info over to your d and let her start checking out the various programs
Marny, she's actually passing info onto me - not visa-versa. I was just looking on this parent board to hear what other parents (or students) had experienced directly (or through their kids) in studying in these places. Me being nervous about her going overseas won't change her plans - thankfully! We have lots of info on the Rice website, also - but I was looking for personal experiences. She just called me all excited, and now is planning to direct enroll at a University in Ecuador at a substantial savings over US based programs. She figures that, including airfare, it will cost exactly her merit aid - thus saving us any expenses for that semester. If it works, it will be great! Thanks for all of your help, and anyone else with stories chime on in, too.!

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Old 02-03-2006, 11:41 PM   #26
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It really is a kick and a thrill when they start passing info over to us. That is just how I felt when my d informed me about the program she found for herself. She also found an apartment for next year and got someone to "share" the apartment for the semester that she'll be abroad. There will be so many more new experiences to help us realize that our kids are growing up. It really is exciting to see it all happen.
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