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06-03-2007, 11:12 PM
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#31 | | Senior Member
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| According to College Board:
Test Scores
Middle 50% of First-Year Students Percent Who Submitted Scores
SAT Critical Reading: 660 - 770 97%
SAT Math: 660 - 760 97%
SAT Writing: 650 - 760 97%
ACT Composite: 28 - 34 25% | 
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06-03-2007, 11:55 PM
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| The numbers from my previous post were from the link interesteddad posted in post #18, in that pdf. But, even still, your numbers say the same thing when compared to the figures for the top 10 national universities and top 5 or so liberal arts colleges. | |
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06-04-2007, 11:42 AM
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| On the USNWR web site (uses 2005 data), when you request a ranking of LACs by 25%-75% SAT scores, this list gets spit out:
1.Harvey Mudd College (CA) 1380-1560
2.Pomona College (CA) 1380-1530
3.Amherst College (MA) 1350-1560
4.Swarthmore College (PA) 1350-1530
5.Williams College (MA) 1340-1530
6.Vassar College (NY) 1340-1450
7.Carleton College (MN) 1320-1500
8.Bowdoin College (ME) 1320-1470
9.Claremont McKenna College (CA) 1310-1490
10.Wellesley College (MA) 1310-1480
11.Wesleyan University (CT) 1300-1490
12.Washington and Lee University (VA) 1300-1450
13.Haverford College (PA) 1290-1470
14.Barnard College (NY) 1290-1450
15.Grinnell College (IA) 1280-1480
16.Middlebury College (VT) 1280-1475
17.Reed College (OR) 1280-1470
18.Davidson College (NC) 1280-1440
19.Colgate University (NY) 1280-1430
20.Colby College (ME) 1280-1430
22.Bates College (ME) 1280-1410
23.Oberlin College (OH) 1270-1460
24.Scripps College (CA) 1270-1450
25.Hamilton College (NY) 1270-1440
26.Macalester College (MN) 1260-1450
27.Wheaton College (IL) 1250-1440
28.Connecticut College 1250-1390
29.Whitman College (WA) 1240-1450
30.Bard College (NY) 1240-1440
Swarthmore's top 4 ranking isn't shabby. | |
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06-04-2007, 11:04 PM
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#34 | | Junior Member
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| Quote:
On the USNWR web site (uses 2005 data), when you request a ranking of LACs by 25%-75% SAT scores, this list gets spit out:
Swarthmore's top 4 ranking isn't shabby.
| 1. That list is two years old now, and my post was specifically asking about a downward trend, implying that current data would imply a decrease in relative SAT scores since then.
2. 25%-75% isn't the same as average. | |
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06-04-2007, 11:27 PM
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| Quote: |
On the USNWR web site (uses 2005 data), when you request a ranking of LACs by 25%-75% SAT scores, this list gets spit out:
| Also, this is still in keeping with my statement. It's near the bottom of the top 5 liberal arts colleges (and at the bottom now in 2007), and below all of the top 10 national universities. I'm wondering if it has been this way for a long time, or if this is the result of a downward trend. | |
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06-11-2007, 12:33 AM
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#36 | | Senior Member
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| A.E.
30% of Swarthmore's acceptance letters have gone to African American and Latino/a students for the last two years. Last year's freshman class at Swarthmore had the highest percentage of African American students in the history of elite LACs or universities: tying Swarthmore's own previous record and UNC-CH's record for universities. Statistically, the 75th percentile remains unchanged since 2000. The 25th percentile had dropped slightly with the increasingly aggressive affirmative action (see the national percentiles for African American and Latino/a test takers).
Basically, instead of using the rapidly increasing number of apps (acceptance rate is now down to 17%) to increase SAT scores, Swarthmore is using it to increase diversity.
Of course, they also aren't playing games with "SAT optional". 97.3% of Swat freshman submit SAT scores. 24% submit ACT. | |
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06-11-2007, 07:10 PM
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| Would I be at a significant disadvantage if I was in that 2.7% that didn't submit the SAT and only sent my ACT? I really just feel as if once was enough for entrance exams and feel like saving $40 because I hate CB! | |
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06-11-2007, 07:42 PM
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| I think only the admissions office can answer that... | |
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06-11-2007, 09:14 PM
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| should I call/email them? | |
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06-12-2007, 08:02 AM
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| Call the office get to know someone there by phone and develop a relationship. Let the Admission office know you really want to go to Swarthmore. | |
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06-12-2007, 09:25 AM
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| Also, you can find out which admissions officer represents your region on Swat's website, and then can email them any questions you may have. Instead of calling and saying, "I WANT TO GO TO SWARTHMORE," ask the admissions office (or even better, your regional rep) an informed question about the school, and keep a conversation going on with them. Buena suerte amigo! | |
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07-07-2007, 06:46 AM
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| Sometimes they just dont reply my emails!! Are my questions too cheap?? | |
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07-07-2007, 07:19 AM
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#43 | | Senior Member
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| Jhl - how would we be able to respond to your question?? We don't even know what questions you asked! | |
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07-09-2007, 05:29 AM
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| Oops, i asked about financial aid for internationals, transcript.. Nothing much.. What kind of interesting questions are there? Hehe | |
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11-01-2007, 07:34 PM
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#45 | | Senior Member
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| Is Swarthmore SAT optional? | |
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