Size of Freshman Acting Class - Page 3

IMHopeful · 03-03-2009, 09:45 AM

BOSTON UNIVERSITY - 100 accepted to yield 40-45 (20-30 wait list)
CALARTS - 24
CARNEGIE MELLON - BFA Acting - 18
CHAPMAN UNIVERSITY - BA Theatre 30-50, BFA Acting 10-15, BFA Screen Acting 10-15
EMERSON COLLEGE - BFA Acting - 23 (accept 50, but cut to 18 after sophomore year.)
EVANSVILLE - 6-10
ITHACA - BFA Acting - 40 accepted to yield 20
JUILLIARD - Acting - 16-18
MINNESOTA/Guthrie - BFA Acting - Call back approximately 60 for March call back weekend - 20 accepted with wait list
NYU/Tisch - 375 (THIS INCLUES DIRECTING, TECHNICAL AND CAP 21)
OU - BFA Acting - 24
OTTERBEIN - BFA Acting - 8
POINT PARK - BA Acting - 30-50 (conflicting information)
ROYAL SCOTTISH ACADEMEY OF MUSIC AND DRAMA - 22 Acting (3-4 from the US)
RUTGERS Mason Gross - BFA Acting - 24 accepted to yield 18
SMU - BFA Acting 12-15, BFA Theatre Studies 12-15
SUNY PURCHASE - BFA Acting - 16-18
SYRACUSE UNIV - BFA Acting - 20-25
TCU - Acting - 20 accepted to yield 10
UCLA - 65 Acting and MT (Acting is 32 freshman, and Juniors another 15 acting)
UIC - BFA Acting - 16; BA Acting - 16
UNCSA - BFA Acting - 28-32 spots
USC - BFA Acting- 26-30 accepted to yield 20 - has no wait list
WEBSTER - BFA Acting - 25-28

NJ College Mom · 03-11-2009, 09:44 AM

Adding Montclair State to the thread - I was surprised to learn they are extremely competitive. They have 13 in their current BFA Acting class and are looking to bring 14 -16 in for September 2009.

IMHopeful · 03-11-2009, 10:17 AM

THANKS!

BOSTON UNIVERSITY - 100 accepted to yield 40-45 (20-30 wait list)
CALARTS - 24
CARNEGIE MELLON - BFA Acting - 18
CHAPMAN UNIVERSITY - BA Theatre 30-50, BFA Acting 10-15, BFA Screen Acting 10-15
EMERSON COLLEGE - BFA Acting - 23 (accept 50, but cut to 18 after sophomore year.)
EVANSVILLE - 6-10
ITHACA - BFA Acting - 40 accepted to yield 20
JUILLIARD - Acting - 16-18
MINNESOTA/Guthrie - BFA Acting - Call back approximately 60 for March call back weekend - 20 accepted with wait list
MONTCLAIR STATE - BFA Acting - 14-16
NYU/Tisch - 375 (THIS INCLUES DIRECTING, TECHNICAL AND CAP 21)
OU - BFA Acting - 24
OTTERBEIN - BFA Acting - 8
POINT PARK - BA Acting - 30-50 (conflicting information)
ROYAL SCOTTISH ACADEMEY OF MUSIC AND DRAMA - 22 Acting (3-4 from the US)
RUTGERS Mason Gross - BFA Acting - 24 accepted to yield 18
SMU - BFA Acting 12-15, BFA Theatre Studies 12-15
SUNY PURCHASE - BFA Acting - 16-18
SYRACUSE UNIV - BFA Acting - 20-25
TCU - Acting - 20 accepted to yield 10
UCLA - 65 Acting and MT (Acting is 32 freshman, and Juniors another 15 acting)
UIC - BFA Acting - 16; BA Acting - 16
UNCSA - BFA Acting - 28-32 spots
USC - BFA Acting- 26-30 accepted to yield 20 - has no wait list
WEBSTER - BFA Acting - 25-28

soozievt · 03-11-2009, 10:47 AM

A few things to remember....

First, the size of the class doesn't indicate selectivity, generally speaking. A class of 12 is not necessarily more selective than a class of 28. It is about the PERCENTAGE admitted.

Second, you have to look at how many are admitted of those who audition, and not the size of the class (the yield). For example, if the class size is 12, they may have admitted 25 to yield 12. At another school, they may have admitted 15 to yield 12. So, you need to look at how many AUDITIONED and then how many were ACCEPTED to get the percentage or admit rate, and not how many slots there are in the class.

Third, you have to examine the talent pool. Often, either a more prestigious program or one that is known on a national level will have a different talent pool than one known on a regional level or that is not as "prestigious". There will be overlaps of candidates at these schools, but generally speaking, their ENTIRE talent pool is not identical. For example, the talent pool for NCSA, CMU or Juiiliard is not the same as for Montclair State or TCU or Point Park for Acting OVERALL (even is some kids apply to all of these).

In terms of gauging "selectivity," all these factors would have to be considered, let alone the level of academic selectivity at each institution, which varies a lot (ie, getting in academically to NYU or Emerson is harder than to Point Park or Pace).

Lucie73 · 03-12-2009, 10:18 AM

Do you know the size of the auditioning class for Acting at calarts, ncsa or depaul this year a ball park number?
I know little of both programs and would like to know more.
Also does calarts prepare actors with tools for theater equal to NYC -- or does its LA movie proximity alter that focus significantly?
I can't decide if discovering CC has made this process more of less relaxed... with a place to ask questions, I seem to have more and more of them.

Margot33 · 03-12-2009, 05:20 PM

I auditioned for UNCSA on Feb. 28 and I heard one of the drama students who was helping with auditions tell an alumnus that 600-700 people are auditioning this year.

Unfortunately, it was right before I auditioned. I didn't mean to hear it, but, I did hear it.

NYQ12 · 03-12-2009, 06:50 PM

600-700 really isn't that much compared to the other schools around the country...

Margot33 · 03-12-2009, 11:33 PM

Yeah, it's just not something you want to be thinking about RIGHT before your audition. 28-32 out of 700.
28-32 out of 700.
28-32 out of 700.....

see?

NYQ12 · 03-13-2009, 10:13 AM

yeah its horrible.. but some schools have like 2,000

fishbowlfreshman · 03-13-2009, 05:28 PM

^ I don't think anyone really auditions 2000. There aren't enough hours in the season for a program to sacrifice the faculty time for that. Some might include all the people they see in passing at the Texas cattle call type deals in their numbers, but that isn't really auditioning. Juilliard typically only auditions between 1000 and 1200. NYU probably sees more but they have a lot more auditors holding the auditions.

Don't worry. It'll all be over soon although it feels like an eternity. Gah ... I remember my senior year in h/s when it seemed like each week was a year. Just know that next year it'll seem like it all happened in a flash ... unless you end up like I did and go through the whole freakin' thing again ... As my oh-so-countrified grandmother would say, "Don't do like I done!" LOL

Oh, and here's an update with some new numbers ...

BOSTON UNIVERSITY - 100 accepted to yield 40-45 (20-30 wait list)
CALARTS - 24
CARNEGIE MELLON - BFA Acting - 18
CHAPMAN UNIVERSITY - BA Theatre 30-50, BFA Acting 10-15, BFA Screen Acting 10-15
DEPAUL UNIVERSITY - BFA Acting - Admits 50 and cuts to 25 after first year.
EMERSON COLLEGE - BFA Acting - 23 (accept 50, but cut to 18 after sophomore year.)
EVANSVILLE - overaccepts and waitlists to yield 16 BFA Performance (10 boys, 6 girls); 10 BS Generalists; 10 Design/Tech; and 3 Theatre Management.
ITHACA - BFA Acting - 40 accepted to yield 20
JUILLIARD - Acting - 16-18
MINNESOTA/Guthrie - BFA Acting - Call back approximately 60 for March call back weekend - 20 accepted with wait list
MONTCLAIR STATE - BFA Acting - 14-16
NYU/Tisch - 375 (THIS INCLUES DIRECTING, TECHNICAL AND CAP 21)
OU - BFA Acting - 24
OTTERBEIN - BFA Acting - 8
POINT PARK - BA Acting - 30-50 (conflicting information)
ROYAL SCOTTISH ACADEMEY OF MUSIC AND DRAMA - 22 Acting (3-4 from the US)
RUTGERS Mason Gross - BFA Acting - 24 accepted to yield 18
SMU - BFA Acting 12-15, BFA Theatre Studies 12-15
SUNY PURCHASE - BFA Acting - 16-18
SYRACUSE UNIV - BFA Acting - 20-25
TCU - Acting - 20 accepted to yield 10
UCLA - 65 Acting and MT (Acting is 32 freshman, and Juniors another 15 acting)
UIC - BFA Acting - 16; BA Acting - 16
UNCSA - BFA Acting - 28-32 spots with around 10 spots for girls.
USC - BFA Acting- 26-30 accepted to yield 20 - has no wait list
WEBSTER - BFA Acting - 25-28

chrissyblu · 03-13-2009, 06:16 PM

I'm not sure I really believe the 600-700 number for NCSA. I mean, maybe that many auditioned, but did they apply? According to NCSA's own website, the TOTAL number of Freshman applicants for ALL undergraduate programs in 2008 was 655 (less than that student said auditioned for drama alone this year), of which 284 were accepted. This is pretty consistent. In 2007, there were 679 Freshman applicants. In 2006, there were 645 Freshman Applicants. Of this number, in 2008, we know 30 were drama students. Total number of drama students in all four years is 133. Drama is one of the smaller programs. Film Making is very popular. The four years has 278 students. Music has 269. Design & Production has 242 and Dance has 201. I believe these programs have many applicants as well. So, if they really had 600-700 audition, then NCSA had a HUGE increase in total applicants, or we are considering those who auditioned at theatre fairs and also those who auditioned at unifieds, but never turned in their applications.

fishbowlfreshman · 03-13-2009, 07:04 PM

^ Interesting. I don't think they audition at theatre fairs. They do apparently sometimes take walk-ins at the Unifieds, though. Interesting points, but the numbers given the last time I auditioned for them came out to around a 6% admit rate implying around 500 auditioning in 2006 although I don't remember the exact numbers since it's been awhile. Dang ... Quite awhile ... LOL Remember that it's harder for girls, though, since they admit around 20 boys and 10 girls.

NYQ12 · 03-13-2009, 07:13 PM

I know 2000 is a lot... BUT on my tour of Carnegie the tour guide told me that they were auditioning over 3000 this year for mt and acting together.....? I know this is completely unrealistic... but it is just odd that I was told this... hmm...

chrissyblu · 03-13-2009, 08:56 PM

All I know is this is what the official records are on the NCSA website for total freshman applicants. I'm wondering if people audition, but never finish the actual application process...in other words, they don't get in their test scores, letters of recommendations, forms of various sorts, etc. So, when the school says this many people audition, that may be so. But in actuality, they aren't considering some of those people for failure to follow through. So you really aren't competing with 600-700. You are only competing with the 400 (or less, given the numbers I'm showing you) who actually did the paperwork. I saw an article a few years ago (couldn't find it again) where NCSA claimed to have 500 audition for its acting program. Yet, I showed you above the total freshman applicants for all schools the past few years were in the neighborhood of 650 plus, with around 280-300 accepted each year. The numbers don't make sense. Of those 650, 500 were acting? I don't think so. I think we all have to accept these numbers with a healthy sense of cynicism.

As for CMU, I have never heard a number as high as 3000. The usual number quoted is 1300. NYU doesn't audition that many, and they are a machine! When we were at LA Unifieds, there were a lot of kids at the CMU audition, but not enough that if they did the same approximate number at each audition, they would get to 3000 for all the auditions they had.

NYQ12 · 03-13-2009, 11:13 PM

yeah it doesn't make any sense he must have said it wrong....