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California "Dream Act" approved for illegal immigrants

Ryan2136Ryan2136 Posts: 396- Member
edited July 2011 in UC Transfers
"At the end of the day, if we're going to continue as a powerful, equal-opportunity society, we're going to have to invest in our people," Brown, a Democrat, said at the signing ceremony in the library of a Los Angeles community college.

California "Dream Act" approved for illegal immigrants - Yahoo! News

Whatever happened to the California's broke thing?

This is only part one of the Dream Act, which gives illegal aliens in-state tuition rates and private scholarships.

This means that illegal aliens get financial priority over any US citizen that does not reside in California.

Next up is Dream Act part II, which will give illegal aliens financial aid. This will definitely pass as well. It is only a matter of when, not if.
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  • Ryan2136Ryan2136 Posts: 396- Member
    These illegals may graduate college but they still won't be able to find legal work because it is illegal to hire illegal immigrants did they think of that?
  • sunnybaNANAsunnybaNANA Posts: 431Registered User Member
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  • xViralxViral Posts: 324Registered User Member
    Don't see a problem with private scholarships which won't involve the state's money. Whoever is most qualified should naturally get the scholarship. The second part will probably not pass though.
  • poserbruinposerbruin Posts: 349Registered User Member
    i was there to see it!! (almost) i went on campus to turn in some financial aid papers and there were all these cops and people in suits and there was a reporter from fox 11 news i was like w.t.f
  • ray50117ray50117 Posts: 202Registered User Junior Member
    I am glad that they passed it.Fortunately, I am glad to gain my citizenship right when I started to college but I will still fight for this cause. I ma not fighting for this cause not only for the Hispanic immigrants that don't have the privilege to receive financial aid but also to other groups. Our only crime was to be born on another country but we are more American than anything else. I applaud Jerry Brown for this.
  • natjannatjan Posts: 263Registered User Junior Member
    I agree with the above poster. While I am a natural born citizen (and killer), I can't relate to the gaining citizenship part, but I do support the aid for undocumented people in this state and country. I have no right to complain about the tuition hike as I am on full grants and loans, so it doesn't affect me directly. I do understand the extra strain for those paying out of pocket, but I think our tuition hikes are not because of this act being signed since they were instated before the DREAM act was signed into a bill. I personally don't think secondary education should be a privilege, I believe it should be a right.
    Furthermore, many undocumented workers do pay taxes, this is something that seems to go overlooked.
  • Ryan2136Ryan2136 Posts: 396- Member
    I had to pay more than $3000 in Visa and green card application to move to the U.S., I had to pay more than $4000 during my first year in community college because I was considered an international student until i was able to prove I had been living legally in California for more than a year. If I knew, I would have entered the country illegally and would have saved a lot of money.Castillo admires students without legal status and insults those who came legally and work hard to succeed.
  • xSlackerxSlacker Posts: 378Registered User Junior Member
    California Governor Jerry Brown signed into law on Monday a bill allowing illegal immigrants to receive privately funded scholarships to attend the state's public colleges and universities.

    The bill, dubbed the California Dream Act, passed the state Legislature earlier this month and aims at helping illegal immigrants who have earned a high school diploma after attending at least three years of high school in the state.

    What state money?

    A) This allows them to receive privately funded scholarships.
    B) You must have gone to high school here for at least 3 years and graduated.

    This isn't a blanket benefit for illegal aliens. This is help aimed at the children of illegal aliens that have grown up here and graduated high school. Some of which don't know or find out they are illegal until this time.
  • PianocatPianocat Posts: 254Registered User Junior Member
    in my opinion the dream act is an attempt by politicians to buy future and current votes. so i dont approve of it as it will change our country's political compass too much.

    one of these days people will learn that you cant just give everyone everything they want. the world has limited resources, its unfortunate but its part of life. we cant just let everyone into our country and maintain the same standard. its just not possible

    Cali is already in a budget crisis and they shouldn't be here in the first place. I think the dream act is all BS
  • Inquiringmind2Inquiringmind2 Posts: 623Registered User Member
    Our strongest state resource is an educated population. Period. If this will help kids (who graduated high school here) get educated and be productive citizens of California, then I am all for it. It's time to close the gap between the "haves" and "have nots" and being educated is one of the best ways to improve ones situation.
  • CaliMadeCaliMade Posts: 106Registered User Junior Member
    The Dream Act is unfair, yes I said it. So if I'm a passenger in a car that is full of cocaine in the truck and we get pulled over, can I explain to the officer that I didn't know drugs were in the car and walk away free, heck no my butt would be handcuffed, dragged to jail and then prison. However, it's okay for someone to break the law by being here illegally and to top it off they get rewarded for this.
    Another reason why this is a bad idea.... Since California is in such a budget crisis how is letting illegals pay the cheaper instate tuition going to relive the budget? It's not, it's only going to make it worse.
    I need to go write my representative ASAP.
  • MitchAPaloozaMitchAPalooza Posts: 951- Member
    As others stated, many were brought into this country without a choice and did not know of their situation until they tried applying for a driver's license or FA. They don't see their native country as home but have allegiance to the US. I'm not an immigrant, but I am dumbfounded when fellow citizens don't even know the laws of the country. I can't recall how many times I've heard or read that these students should just apply for a green card and residency. Things don't work that way. If they did, I am sure the majority would be coming out of the shadows to apply.

    I do admire the determination and tenacity of these students. They don't have a sense of entitlement which many of my fellow Americans seem to have today. Once again, I've read that these student's will be taken poor Timmy's spot at college. Since when was it his spot. It's a very alarming problem. I agree with the poster who said education is the only way to progress this nation further. You've seen the numbers where we rank against the world in subjects such as mathematics, physics, chemistry, engineering, etc and they are not pretty. Just the other day I read an article which stated 75% of HS seniors in Oklahoma couldn't even state who was the first President.

    Either way, I know this a hotly debated topic and will continue to be unless some comprehensive immigration reform is passed to address some of the issues.
  • SMCguySMCguy Posts: 1,352Registered User Senior Member
    Did anyone see the undocumented student on Good Day LA this morning? He’s been living in California for the last 19 years of his life, he’s 21 now. He works construction to pay his way though college. Him and his family pay taxes and also contribute to the economy by spending their dollars in California. He’s a bio engineer and seems very intelligent. I couldn’t help, but feel bad for the guy.

    I’m a third generation Mexican-American. I’m fortunate that my grandparents came to the US a long time ago. I couldn’t help but think I could have been this guy except I probably wouldn’t be as driven. I would probably just work construction for the rest of my life.

    I believe California should award students like this guy and deport all of the illegals who are committing crimes…those are the undocumented people who shouldn’t be given a pass.

    Another story....our Salutatorian in high school was accepted to a UC and while going through the FA process she found out she was undocumented, he parents never told her. She was rescinded dispite working hard through high school to earn over a 4.0 Last I heard she baby sits kids for an income...her hard work and intelligence went to waste =/
  • statmanaggiestatmanaggie Posts: 97Registered User Junior Member
    @MitchA ... wow. That statistic about Oklahoma HS seniors was just down right alarming but unfortunately doesn't surprise me. Do you have a link to the article?
  • MitchAPaloozaMitchAPalooza Posts: 951- Member
    @statmanaggie

    The link is below:

    75 Percent of Oklahoma Students Can't Name the First President - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports |

    Probably even more concerning is this:
    A thousand students were surveyed by telephone and given 10 questions drawn from the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services item bank. Candidates for U.S. citizenship must answer six questions correctly in order to become citizens.

    About 92 percent of the people who take the citizenship test pass on their first try, according to immigration service data. However, Oklahoma students did not fare as well. Only about 3 percent of the students surveyed would have passed the citizenship test.
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