Logos

Most of it depends what you do where you go, not where you go. A bare-bones economics major doesn't necessarily have all the skills of an economics major who can do statistics, program (in R D: ), and create models.

coolstuff

true i would agree

coolstuff

hey let me help you out, go to the websites of UCI econ and UCSD econ and check out the classes for yourself. THIS IS A F****ckin must!!
UCI econ is not hard to get into or hard I heard. UCSD mang. sci.
is hard which means its good, Im a UCSD econ major, not mang sci.
but mang. sci requires you to take 3 micro classes, 3 econometrics classes, and operations research classes, check around and youll see that this is the most complete man. sci program and compares to schools like MIT!!!
now go check out the schools.
The notion that UCI is socially better than UCSD is so BULL that makes me want to throw up so go choose for yourself

GET THE REAL FACT DUDE< not some idiots here who want to tell you they would personally choose this school over that cuz " like IMGosh they have better part atmosph. F**K that, go C the school, you like UCI better? then go there, I should be fair and say that UCI is an economically more diverse and business environment thatn UCSD, thats for sure, easier to probably get internships in business than in SD.
Also im from Irvine and I go to UCSD, so I sorta know what im talking about

hotelmoscow

im probably going to transfer to san diego in the fall. i was accepted as an econ major. do any of you know if i could double major econ + management sci?

evo9

Management science is Econ.... Plus more. So no reason to double. Ive heard it referred to as an econ degree on steroids.

j4y_7

UCI and UCSD are both fairly easy to get into for transfers. For Fall of '07 I was accepted to UCI as a Business-Econ. major and UCSD as an Econ. major. I ultimately decided on Business-Econ @ UCI.

The two majors should be fairly similar and as long as you have a couple internships under your belt, you shouldn't have any problems finding a job (out of college) w/ either one. With that said, you might want to visit both schools just to see which one you like better.

hotelmoscow

if management science is a beefed up version of economics why wouldn't everyone just major in that instead of economics?

evo9

No Idea..... I mean it literally is the same list of classes, except some of the optional econ electives are pre determined econ courses, and then it adds in decisions under uncertainty, accounting, financial analysis (I think), linear algebra and I think operations research as well.

zemookmook

because you have to take the harder series of calculus. econ requires the easy series of calculus. without linear algebra. as evo9 said, it also has operations research.

<quote>I personally would rather go to UCI becuase the management science compared to UCI bus/econ, i dont feel is that huge of a difference, its not like your goin to berkeley haas.</quote>

so you obviously know nothing of either program, if you dont know the differences.

look. let's put it this way. uci's program is just getting off the ground, and they haven't put enough time and effort into it to have it compete with ucla yet. on that note, management science is 'econ on steroids' and it's a vastly better program then ucla's econ. it cant compare with berkeley because it doesnt have enough laureates yet, and they havent expanded the program enough to where it needs to be.

that being said, management science here is complete, engaging, and a far better program-if you're cut out for it. a lot of people are not.

evo9

Well put zemookmook.
I am very happy to be doing the management science major. I have been doing ALOT of research over the last year+ and have found it to be an amazing program. I am still waiting on decisions for UCLA and USC, but I feel that even if accepted, I will still go to UCSD. Management science seems to really set one up for a prosperous future, as it is perfect training for masters/phd programs, many career fields (including executive positions) etc... Not many other econ programs come close (in my opinion). Although UCSD is not that highly recognized by recruiters, the school is very young and it is already tenth in the nation for grad. econ, and highly ranked undergrad. Also, I plan on going to grad school as well, so I will worry about name recognition then. But all in all, for my personal growth in this field, I couldnt be happier to go to UCSD.

Logos

Actually, its economics department is just highly rated because of its graduate econometrics department, which is absolutely top notch. However, anyone who does econometrics knows that its pretty much a statistical field. Most graduate schools will look at your letters of recommendation, research, coursework more than your school.

Starr videocasts lectures for his Mathematical Economics class, and provides a ton of resources. It's the only economics undergraduate class with marginal enrollment, ie less than 200.

Logos

A slight edit: it doesn't matter what econ major you do, honestly. Graduate schools won't care, and anyone looking seriously at your CV won't care much either.

Management Science is just an economics major plus required nonsense, so the economics major is better.

cr_book

that is ridiculous logic. so they won't look higher on you for taking more classes?

bull.

Logos

It's the letters of recommendation that count, and if you can get that out of your microeconomics professor, then I don't see why not. Besides, if you were playing that game, you'd go math/econ, which is the most rigorous economics-based major in the undergraduate department.

In fact, anyone good at math and doing econ should do math/econ or I'll be lonely in my math classes next year. Excellent way to get recommendations too, as opposed to the 150+ lecture hall economics courses. Core courses are enforced, and there is still only one section yearlong sequence analysis/algebra course, and both are underpopulated. Not to mention non-required math courses, which have even fewer people. Enrollment went from 22 to 7 between two quarters of a sequence. =(

zemookmook

logos, while i agree with you on the it doesnt matter what major you are topic, i mean that comparatively speaking, i feel as though the quantitative rigor and focus on applied micro that our mgmt sci program has is better when held against a business econ or a business program. that was the point i was trying to make.

additionally a disclaimer: i am not hardcore enough to do math/econ. that **** is hard. i tried that advanced calc $#!%. no good. noooooooooo good.


also: i was unaware starr videocasts 113. what's the website?

edit: what sequence are you referring to?