Guardiangel

"Maybe, but I'm going to avoid physics here for now, and wait til I go somewhere else. It might be just that 1 professor here that makes these things seem bigger than they are"

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Laguna

changusmc: Yeah anyway, when you said you were missing physics, did you mean 1 physics class or the whole series of physics which is like 2-3 classes?

tastybeef

"CCC may be a joke for social science majors, but when it comes down to science, it can be just as tough, or tougher"

This isn't true in my experience. Having taken multivariable calc, linear algebra, statistics, and tutored kids in general chem and ochem at De Anza, I can tell you that this is definitely not the case from what I've seen. Science classes at Berkeley (if not at all other UC's) are harder.

Guardiangel

where laguna and i go... the sciences are tough...
like erm... tough as in really crazy tough...
if u like challenge i dare say my CC has one of the craziest physics classes in california
i for one will never take a physics class here for igetc or any breadth requirement for sciences for that matter

Guyy

are you a math/engineering/physics major? i see lots of non math/engineering/physics major say physics is hard at my school, but the people in the major think its easy.

only one way to find out. take standardized physics tests!

laguna lives in rowland heights so im assuming she went to either rowland, nogales, los altos, wilson, dbhs, walnut, troy or sonora. and the CCC is either mt sac, rio hondo, or pcc. out of the 3 mt sac is the best. when mt sac is compared to a UC it is a joke, math and science wise.

student14x

Physics is hard anywhere. But of course physics at a UC is harder. It can be in subtle ways. Sure the concepts are the same. Sometimes the exams at the CCC are harder. But you are neglecting the fact the the courses at the UCs are curved. I had a physic teacher that gave out incredibly hard exams, 4questions in 50 min. Most people can't even finish. And its not unusual for a B to be in the top decile. Since his exams were so hard, I decided to compare them to Cal's exams in an equivalent class. I found out that the exams at Cal were easier in every way. Easier questions, formula cheat sheets and 6questions in 2hours. I even finished one early. But then I thought about it, if I thought that their physics was easy, then what would their students think? They would think its easy too. After all, I don't think its too heterodox to assume that Cal students are at least as smart you are( given that you're a 3.7-4.0 student). But since they grade on a curve, that means the easy A that I would have gotten on that exam would have probably been a B since most of everyone else would have also thought it was a easy A. And the only way to get an A on that exam probably would require me to score a perfect. So yes how easy a class or exam is has no barring on your grades( at UCs). What matters is how you compete with other students.

Mathtransfer

Wait I thought for non impacted majors you do not have to finish prereqs...obviously you have a better chance if you do though. Why is everybody saying that you absolutely must complete all prereqs to get admitted to UCLA?? I'm still waiting for my decision and I am missing two prereqs (diff eq and comp sci) but my major is not impacted.

Woman.Of.Troy

I don't know, My remaining couple of pre-reqs were in progress, I thought I was fine. better luck to you mathtransfer!

Mathtransfer

Thanks W.O.T.! Even if I don't get into UCLA I got into UCSD and that is also a great school so I really have nothing to complain about.

Thomas_

changusmc: I'm pretty sure it was the physics. Physics is a major requirement for CS majors and if you're missing one class they'll see the whole series as "not completed". If you applied to Berkeley EECS I'm pretty sure you won't get in with missing a Physics class. Hope you applied to L&S CS. Good luck.

Regarding CC vs. UC science classes:
I wouldn't say that the material at UCs is "harder", but it's much harder to get an A. A curve at a CC will rather bring your grade up than down since most people are not that smart. At UC's it's the other way round. A consequence of the harsher curve/competition is that you have to learn the material more thoroughly to get an A, which results in mork work/gained knowledge at a UC.

student14x

At my CC we don't have curves. So its difficulty is somewhere in between.