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Old 05-07-2008, 10:47 PM   #16
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my new student counselor said that summer English class might be too diffcult, is this true? or does this also depends on the professor?
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Old 05-07-2008, 10:48 PM   #17
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My same friend took English over the summer and he thought it wasn't too bad...
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Old 05-07-2008, 10:55 PM   #18
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I suggest you take a hard English class over the normal semester. English is a fundamentally key subject and without a solid base, many students find themselves completely miserable with all the papers they need to write for school.

In my experience, HS English is TOTALLY different than college level English. In no way does HS English prepare you for how to write decently at the college level.

I edit the essays of UCSD, UCSC and UCD students and their grades IMPROVE (crazy, at least I think so!) when I edit them! It is not like I'm a grammar pro, it is mainly because writing is the main thing for my major (that and reading comprehension). Even then, I know I'm going to be in for one hell of a ride at UCLA.

For your major classes and your English classes, I suggest you challenge yourself. Prepare for a shock. I'm not a super writer now (clearly) but in comparison to high school, well... let's just say that I should be getting the Nobel Prize in Literature soon.
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Old 05-07-2008, 11:07 PM   #19
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What about AP English? Does that prepare you well for college English? I would think so because it is a college-level course...
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Old 05-07-2008, 11:12 PM   #20
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Well from what I found out, from a friend that went to UCSD, he completed AP English with a 5 on his AP score. He did super well in school in general. Took 8 AP's and got 5's on all of them (including Spanish which generally only happens to native speakers).

First day of school he turned in his essay on Hamlet, his "best work" as said by his HS English teacher and by his own opinion.

The Professor handed it back and said it was some of the worst work she has seen in years. He got a C- on it and told him that he lacked everything but grammar. Given that he was in the UCSD honors program (ridiculously high SAT scores), it still shook him to the core.

Also AP English didn't excuse him from the Warren writing program. Which he wound up getting a B and a very wounded ego.


He is just an extreme, scary story but still, it is a good example of how bad/hard things can get.
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Old 05-07-2008, 11:12 PM   #21
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xleper17,

You think the CCC English 101 would help my writing dramatically? As you see, I struggles to write efficiency and well-written like yours.
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Old 05-07-2008, 11:14 PM   #22
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hey, it's just a suggestion bjt223. I'm not putting you down as a writer or anything, I'm just saying that it is an important class that shouldn't be disregarded. I don't know anyone that got the smooth transition from HS writing to college writing, CC, UC or even Ivy League.
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Old 05-07-2008, 11:39 PM   #23
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I supposed English or math wouldn't be a smart choice, but I do wonder what kind of class would you recommend taking over the summer (business major)?
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Old 05-07-2008, 11:42 PM   #24
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When I took AP English in high school, it prepared me really well to write academic papers on analytical literature, so I used to be really careful on my wording so as to make a strong objective argument that'd be airtight.

English 1A (or 101, etc) asked very different types of questions, more open ended and opinion-oriented. From AP English questions like "analyze the implications of X symbol in conveying Y character's..." to English 1A questions like "To what extent are you a free person in this society?" The tone of my paper changed from really dull and analytical to something that actually flowed and was enjoyable to read on the couch.

There are college classes that require the same type of thinking/writing as those of AP English, though, but you'll easily identify them by the course description (keywords: Chaucer, Shakespeare, et al)

PS: My recommendation for a first year summer class is a fun class (but make sure it's on your CC's IGETC list)
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Old 05-07-2008, 11:45 PM   #25
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im taking gen.chemII this summer... it's ganna be a hell
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Old 05-08-2008, 12:47 AM   #26
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When you enter a UC your gpa starts from 0.

when you take summer classes in a CC -come grad school time it WILL factor into your TOTAL undergrad GPA.

Every single class you take counts for your gpa.

The only thing is that it is not part of the consideration for your admission to transfer because the decision must be made before summer classes finish, but do not think your GPA for those courses never counts, that is NOT the case.

Your GPA starts over when you transfer from CC (or form any institution to another) You have seperate GPAs for each institution.
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