Too long, did not read: I have 56 semester credits from AP tests and could take a summer course to enter Berkeley as a junior. Is this enough to graduate in three years after taking into account registration problems and course requirements?
Hello. I have been accepted into UC Berkeley College of Letters and Science and would like find out if I can graduate in three years. I plan on majoring in Physics and/or History, but I have yet to make it official.
I have credit from 7 AP exams and am taking 9 more this year. I have researched this topic and have yet to come to a satisfying conclusion. I will describe my current understanding of AP credit compared to credit requirements, majors, class standing, CalSO, and TeleBEARS so as not to bother any of you with what I solved by searching the internet. My core questions are at the bottom.
AP Credit (expectations in parenthesis based on recent practice)
European History 4
English Language 5
Environmental Science 5
Calculus BC 5
[AB subscore 5]
Physics B 5
US History 5
US Government (5)
English Literature (4-5)
Human Geography (4-5)
World History (5)
Physics C Mech (4-5)
Physics C EM (3-5)
UC System Credit
University of California - AP credits
The UC system grants credit for most AP tests each worth 2.7 or 5.3 units (after conversion to semester units). English, Calculus, and Physics credit do not stack with themselves.
5.3: Biology, Chemistry, English (either), Calculus (BC), US History, European History, World History, Physics (all) [8 x 5.3 = 42.7]
2.7: Environmental Science, US Government, Human Geography, Psychology, Statistics [5 x 2.7 = 13.3]
According to this, I would have 56 semester credits for the UC system if I pass all my upcoming tests.
Berkeley College Credit (Letters and Science)
University of California - Berkeley
Computer Science (n/a)
English: Language: 5 or Literature: 4 satisfies first half of Reading and Composition requirement and Literature 5 satisfies entire Reading and Composition requirement
History: United States: Satisfies the American History and Institutions requirement.
Language Other Than English (n/a)
Mathematics: Each test: Satisfies Quantitative Reasoning requirement.
Statistics: Satisfies Quantitative Reasoning requirement.
By this, I have completed the first half of R&C, the Qualitative Reasoning, and American History and Institutions; may complete the second half of R&C
There is no mention of other AP tests but there is no contradiction of the previous list either.
I conclude that this list is for specific requirements that this college requires and the previous list is for raw course credit.
L&S Degree Requirements
Office of Undergraduate Advising: Summary of Degree Requirements
Entry Level Writing: complete many times over with SAT, ACT, and AP scores
American History and Institutions: complete with US History 5
American Cultures: this appears to require a course to complete and not AP credit
Reading and Composition: half complete with Language 5; fully complete with literature 5
Quantitative Reasoning: complete many times over with SAT, ACT, and AP scores
Foreign Language: to be completed with two semesters in college
Breadth: to be completed in college with at least 7 courses (unsure if 7 semesters or year=14 semesters)
Major: [to be detailed later]
Unit: 120 total; at least 60 L&S; 36 upper division; of 36 at least 6 major
Others: [do not appear to be relevant at the moment]
physics @ berkeley - The Major and Minor Program
Requirements: 30 semester units which must include Physics 7ABC; Math 1A, 1B, 53 and 54 or their equivalent
AP Credit: it is important to take college courses for the major and not use AP credit, but AP credit may apply towards the 30 semester units and may allow for taking more advanced equivalents of the required courses for credit
Declaring: should I decide to do so, I would declare my major in my second (of hypothetically 3) years but finish the program over those 2 years; I have yet to delve too deeply into this, but I have heard it is quite possible
Other majors: IU may consider History or specialized majors if they work better for the 3 year plan; or some sort of plan with minors unless it causes problems
[No link, my information is from all over the web, including many previous threads on this topic]
Every 30 semester credits are equivalent to a minimum year of college credit. If I were to take a community college course over summer, I would have 60 credits (even after subtracting redundant credit) and could even enter as a junior. Those who graduate in 3 years must effectively enter as a sophomore, which is a possibility thanks to AP credit. While AP credit may not necessarily replace college classes, it can increase class standing so as to get priority registration for classes. However, so many incoming freshmen have 30+ semester credits it is supposedly not worth as much as they tell you in High School. Still, I have far more credit than almost every AP student I know, so it might make a difference. Because there is no official page about graduating in 3 years or about class standing, I am unsure about the exact details here.
Welcome to CalSO!
While researching all of this, I have learned that it is best to register at the earliest possible CalSO in order to have hopes of getting into the courses you want. The soonest day I have heard of is April 21st, but I am not sure if that is an option for this.
[No link because I am not allowed to use the site yet]
Additionally, I have learned about the troubled system of schedule construction at Berkeley and am aware that it may be the greatest challenge to my attempts at graduating in 3 years. While I may have far enough credits to do so, it is apparently impossible to make an optimal schedule due to sheer number of students and budget cuts.
Can I graduate from Berkeley in 3 years, saving $32,000 and a year of my time; finally making use of my many AP tests?
Is this possible with Physics as a major?
How can I get around registration issues that may halt my plans?
Do AP tests REALLY mean anything?