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Old 04-09-2012, 12:00 PM   #1
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Pre-Haas: First 2 Years SCHEDULE of Classes--Could you please rate the difficulty??

Hey Everyone! Thank you so much for answering.
I'd like your feedback on the difficulty/manageability/quality of my first 2 years (4 semesters) as I am on the track for Haas.

Freshman Fall-13 units
-Math 16A (3)-- i took AP calc ab in hs and got a 5
-Econ 1 (4)
-Intro to EnvE Studies (4) or Developing Brain (PSYCH) [breadth]
--Decal (2) or another breadth

Freshman Spring-13 units
-Math 16B (3)
-UGBA 10 (3)
-German/Scandinavian Studies (4) [r&c]
--Easy breadth class (3)


Freshman Summer
-Math 53 (just for my interest)


Sophomore Fall-14 or maybe 15 units
-Stat 20 (4)
-Econ 100A (4)
-Gender Studies (breadth) (3)
-Breadth (3 or 4)


Sophomore Spring
-Econ 100B
-Another useful Stat Class or UGBA 102/103 (which is basics of finance or accounting)
-EnvE sciences(breadth)
-Another easy science breadth


Sophomore Summer
-Econ 140 (econometrics)

**I'm an Econ backup if i don't get into Haas.

Is it wise to take both Econ 1 and UGBA 10 my first year? If not, what would you suggest my schedule looked like?
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Old 04-09-2012, 12:52 PM   #2
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bump bump bump!
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Old 04-09-2012, 02:10 PM   #3
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Your math plan does not make sense.

If you are interested in math, take Math 1B and 53 (and Economics 101A instead of 100A). If you just want to do the minimum possible math, take Math 16A and 16B and be done with it.
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Old 04-09-2012, 06:21 PM   #4
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A few observations:

1. Pre-Haas people generally delay beginning the Econ 100/101 series until their 4th semester so those grades won't affect their GPA for Haas since those classes have a reputation for being difficult.

2. Somewhat counter-intuitively, may people also take Econ 100B before Econ 100A since the former is less math-intensive than the latter, which eases the transition from introductory to intermediate economics.

3. I agree with ucbalumnus; if you are interested in taking Math 53, maybe Math 54, stats classes, etc. you may want to consider a quantitative major or minor, especially as a back-up plan for Haas (perhaps alongside a major in econ).

4. You also have 3 pre-requisites in your freshman spring semester; you may want to be careful in combining more than 2 pre-requisites in any given semester, just as a rule of thumb.
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Old 04-09-2012, 06:34 PM   #5
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Something other majors to consider, if you really like math but want a business and economics emphasis (the undergraduate business major at Berkeley is not very quantitative):

Applied Mathematics
Statistics
Economics with math (with 101A, 101B, 141)
Operations Research and Management Science

A double major, or a single major with lots of space for electives in the other areas, is certainly possible with the above majors (at least the first three).
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Old 04-09-2012, 08:02 PM   #6
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@ucbalumnus, what sort of schedule/classes would you recommend for a Haas applicant to maximize GPA, besides Math 16A and 16B? Or rather, what classes should a Haas applicant avoid until later on?
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Old 04-09-2012, 09:11 PM   #7
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I think the ideal schedule to maximize GPA (assuming you are prioritizing that above a second major or a minor or graduating early) would be to spread out your pre-requisites and to delay the Econ 100 series (which is easier to do well in GPA-wise than the 101 series) until spring of your sophomore year since that is the first semester for which your GPA will not matter for Haas (except for retaining your conditional admission, which is negligible). Also note that Stats 20 and 21 are generally regarded as similar to one another in terms of rigor, so choose which one to take based on which fits better with your schedule for a given semester and the professor.
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Old 04-09-2012, 11:47 PM   #8
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Maximizing GPA would entail choosing courses that one likes. Obviously, the business prerequisites are mostly specified. Presumably, the student has an alternate major in mind whose prerequisite courses should be at least interesting enough to do well in.

Specifically in terms of the math courses, a math fearing student should just stick with 16A and 16B. A student who likes math and is good at it should not fear 1B, 53, or 54 and may find those courses more interesting. The OP seems to be conflicted -- fearful of 1B, but wanting to take 53.
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