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Cal Admission rate for international applicants much lower than UCLA

ArchAngel0ArchAngel0 Posts: 58Registered User Junior Member
According to the UC Admissions Office stats, last year UCLA admitted 32% of international applicants whereas Cal admitted 12% even though the overall admission rate and number of international applicants were almost identical. In fact over the three years of 10, 11 and 12 UCLA was always in the 30s while Cal was in the 20s then suddenly cut to 12% last year.

Does this show that UCLA is less selective towards international applicants than Cal, that I as an international applicant will have a higher chance of being accepted to UCLA than Cal when applying to both? Seems like a pretty interesting contrast between the policies of the two campuses.

Source:
http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/...ons_table2.pdf
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Replies to: Cal Admission rate for international applicants much lower than UCLA

  • ArchAngel0ArchAngel0 Posts: 58Registered User Junior Member
    Does Cal get more funding or something like that?
  • beyphybeyphy Posts: 2,162Registered User Senior Member
    I think when the first wave of budget cuts happened it was like 500m. between 90-100m (20%) of that funding directly went to UCLA. While Cal isn't in an amazing position right now either, I think the budget cuts hurt UCLA significantly more. So that might explain it.

    UCLA is also the most competitive UC campus for Calfiornia students (admitting less than 18%) and will probably be the first campus this year in the United States to break 100,000 applicants.
  • ArchAngel0ArchAngel0 Posts: 58Registered User Junior Member
    Wow some crazy numbers there.
  • beyphybeyphy Posts: 2,162Registered User Senior Member
    Are there any good sources for cross admit enrollment between UCLA and Berkeley? The only one i know of is Parchmount, which i'm skeptical of.

    Last year, UCLA was overenrolled because its yield was higher than it had traditionally been, resulting in it getting a wait-list for the first time in its history.

    But that yield being higher was because Berkeley admitted less students. As a result, instead of deciding whether to matriculate to UCLA and Berkeley, many were just admitted to UCLA, and decided to matriculate there.
    Cox also pointed to the fact that many students choose between UCLA and UC Berkeley when making their college decision. While overlap between the two schools has been fairly stable over the years, it was lower last year, Cox said.

    Because they did not have to choose between the two schools, a higher number of students chose to come to UCLA in comparison to previous years, Cox said.

    The Daily Bruin :: UCLA wait-lists 2,900 for first time in school?s history

    This, as a result, affected UCLA's admission decisions for fall 2012.
    Facing over-enrollment from last year, when 440 more freshmen than expected enrolled at UCLA, the campus was forced to reduce its admission of California residents for fall 2012 by nearly 1,800 students to reach its enrollment target of approximately 4,000 California resident freshmen.

    UCLA admits more than 15,000 students for fall 2012 freshman class / UCLA Newsroom
  • d313711d313711 Posts: 41Registered User Junior Member
    RML. That's interesting to know. My daughter was also admitted to Cambridge and Berkeley. May I ask what was your subject study when you applied to Cambridge and Berkeley?
  • meakamemeakame Posts: 639Registered User Member
    I want to make a note regarding admission to Cambridge vs Berkeley:
    Cambridge always has a higher admission rate, making it look like it's less selective. It's true; they do take in a higher percentage of applicants. But this is solely because you are restricted to applying to five programs of study in the UK. (Not even five schools; five programs), unlike here, where, if you have the money, you can apply to as many schools as you want.

    I have also heard that Berkeley rejects students that are "too good" for it, because they want to increase their yield rate – that might be another reason.
  • terencterenc Posts: 1,127Registered User Senior Member
    ^Berkeley rejecting students because they are too good for it is simply not true. Firstly because it's not very likely this happens at any school in general, and secondly because it is even less likely to happen at a top school. I think this is an urban myth that is repeated over and over again.
  • d313711d313711 Posts: 41Registered User Junior Member
    To my knowledge, applications to Cambridge have to be supported by the teachers or the counselors of the high school that one is attending. I don't think the admission rate is good indicator for selectivity between Cambridge and other top U.S. universities .

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  • d313711d313711 Posts: 41Registered User Junior Member
    Sometimes, Cambridge offer was turned down because of subject studied. If one is unsure of spending 3 years to study one subject that may not have promising career prospect, one may turn down Cambridge.
  • beyphybeyphy Posts: 2,162Registered User Senior Member
    Last years' stats alone would tell you that Berkeley rejected thousands of students with SATs ranging from 2300 to 2400. That should tell you something. And, I bet that some of those students are now at the Ivies, Stanford, MIT or Caltech.

    It probably tells you that Berkeley rejects applicants it knows will matriculate to the better universities they'll get admitted to. Even against Stanford, Berkeley only has a 2% enrollment against students accepted there. If you'll be accepted into HYPSM, there's no point in Berkeley accepting you. It's a wasted admit.
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