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Haas - IE or Econ?

Pat1120Pat1120 Registered User Posts: 605 Member
Hi everyone.

First I'd like to apologize if anyone saw my thread on the UM boards... it's pretty similar but I wanted to clarify for both schools.

I am applying to UCB this fall. I have a 31 ACT, 3.9 UW, 4.6 W GPA. Ranked 12/510. Solid ECs (varsity football, track, BPA nationals twice) but nothing remarkable. Highly competitive OOS high school. I would like to study Finance or management.

I was wondering, what would give me a better chance of getting accepted into Haas: freshman year Industrial Engineering or LSA? I would enjoy studying either Industrial Engineering or Economics, in case I am not accepted into Haas.

I am a bit worried that after two years, I could be declined to Haas, which has something like 40% acceptance rate (if I remember correctly). That said, I want to increase my chances of getting accepted to Haas (if I'm accepted to UCB).

Also, would applying to Berkeley's College of Engineering lower my chances of being accepted to UCB? I'd like to think I'm a match/high match for Berkeley L&S, but I'm not sure for CoE.

If it means anything - I have taken Macro Econ and scored a 5. I have taken Calculus AB, BC (5s), and I'm taking Calc 3 through University of Illinois (currently A) and AP Stats (expecting 5). I scored 4 on AP Lang, and English is definitely my weakness. I will have 9 total AP classes by graduation. SAT IIs: 800 Math II and 770 Physics. ACT Subscores - 35 math 33 science 29 reading 26 english.

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Replies to: Haas - IE or Econ?

  • AskMsSunAskMsSun - Posts: 1,767 Senior Member
    Evaluation focus for engineering majors is on the number and level of math and science courses completed (at a minimum, aim to complete AP Biology, AP Chemistry, AP Physics, and AP Calculus AB or BC), grades in those courses, and test scores in math and science (SAT Subject Tests in Math Level 2 and a science are highly recommended). Strong extracurriculars in the math, science, and engineering fields, especially in selective research programs such as COSMOS, are highly desirable.

    If you have the coursework, grades, test scores, and appropriate extracurriculars for IE, go for it. If not, L&S is a better bet.
  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus Registered User Posts: 56,650 Senior Member
    Note that in L&S, both economics and ORMS (a major similar to IEOR, but not ABET-accredited) majors are capped, so you would have to apply to declare them, just as you have to apply to the business major. Non-capped L&S majors that may interest you include math and statistics. All L&S freshmen enter undeclared; intended major does not matter in admission to L&S (though it should be consistent with what you write in your essay).

    CoE is generally more selective than L&S, but individual majors may vary (CoE does admit by major, unlike L&S). CoE freshmen enter declared in their majors, except for those who apply as and are admitted as CoE undeclared. The latter can choose any major in their freshman year. Others must apply to change into a CoE major.

    Note that the business major is not very quantitative, so if you get into the business major but want something more quantitative, you may want to consider a second major or minor in one of the more quantitative majors like math, statistics, ORMS, or IEOR.

    Have you checked the financial aid estimator to see if you can afford to attend Berkeley?
  • Pat1120Pat1120 Registered User Posts: 605 Member
    Based on that, I think I'd have a comparable chance in CoE as L&S.

    I have taken AB, BC (5s), and currently taking calc 3.
    Currently in AP Physics (school only allows us to take 1 ap science class)
    800 math II, 770 Physics
    Math Team Captain/Oralist (3 time state qualifier), Math National Honors Society
    35 Math 33 Science ACT score..

    Thanks for the advice!
  • Pat1120Pat1120 Registered User Posts: 605 Member
    Do a lot of people apply for an Economics major and do not get it? I didn't know they capped their L&S majors. I would rather not major in Math or Stats... I would probably have to transfer if I didn't get Econ or Haas. I would definitely apply for Industrial engineering as I'm confident I would do that branch of Engineering.

    I don't think I'll receive any financial aid, my family income is 300k+... I can afford Berkeley.
  • AskMsSunAskMsSun - Posts: 1,767 Senior Member
    My best wishes to you and good luck!
  • Pat1120Pat1120 Registered User Posts: 605 Member
    Thank you!
  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus Registered User Posts: 56,650 Senior Member
    https://econ.berkeley.edu/undergrad/prospective describes the application process for the economics major.
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