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03-24-2008, 02:50 AM
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#376 | | Junior Member
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| Where's the Critical Thinking Guys?
Any more parents on here besides the OP?
Yes, the OP is a parent, so if you wanted to converse with students only, then you picked the wrong thread.
How anyone on here could not know that "kyledavid" is still a high school student after his nearly 6000 posts (including the ones on this thread) is simply baffling!
The biggest disappointment, however, is the fact that you students who believe that the e-mail(s) mean nothing have not provided any analysis to support your position.
"Where's the beef" guys? [clearly a reference that only us "ancient rear end"-types will get!]
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03-24-2008, 02:55 AM
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#377 | | Senior Member
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I'm a parent and I didn't know (and I've been seeing kyles posts for awhile. Obviously I've missed quite a few !)
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03-24-2008, 02:55 AM
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#378 | | Junior Member
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Yes, it's late, but FWIW, the original letter posted on UB website is now changed to include the verbiage "we're worth the wait" - so clearly somebody made a change this evening. When I first looked at it a few hours ago, the language was different from what my son's e-mail said. I say at this point we all just wait until Thursday when the system crashes because everyone will be logging on at 5 p.m. Good luck, and....sigh....go Bears.
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03-24-2008, 02:56 AM
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#379 | | Senior Member
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How anyone on here could not know that "kyledavid" is still a high school student after his nearly 6000 posts (including the ones on this thread) is simply baffling!
|  well, to be fair, many of my posts have nothing to do with where I am. Quote: |
The biggest disappointment, however, is the fact that you students who believe that the e-mail(s) mean nothing have not provided any analysis to support your position.
| Well, have you? It's really difficult to draw any conclusions based on such a tiny sampling size. There could be any number of other variables--for example, when the person last logged into his/her account. Or Berkeley could be sending them out still--it's another 4 days until decisions are out. They could be sending them by the alphabet, by region, or by the order in which the students made their accounts.
We have no idea. The best we can do is wait and relax. Que será será.
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03-24-2008, 03:13 AM
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#380 | | Member
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Originally Posted by kyledavid80 Que será será | serio .
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03-24-2008, 03:13 AM
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#381 | | Junior Member
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kd,
I'm still baffled about the "didn't know you were in high school" comments based on your posts in this thread alone. But, oh well . . .
My analysis is contained in posts WAY BACK in this thread and I'm not going to repeat them here (big sigh of relief heard from learnmestuff, hehe).
I like that you took a stab at analyzing this, kd. "Tiny sampling size"? I agree. But it was large enough to discern the fact that there are 3 different versions of the e-mail.
Your next point addresses the so-called "4th Version," i.e., applicants who did not yet receive any e-mail. And you're right again. Cal could still be sending them out.
And again you're absolutely right with your comment that "Que será será." You ARE very smart KyleDavid! Bravo!
Congrats on all of your college acceptances and best of luck on getting into Cal as well.
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03-24-2008, 03:13 AM
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#382 | | Junior Member
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Lex - just relax and we will see in a few days. You could very well be right. And I hope you are right too. There is no harm in speculating, just don't take yourself too seriously.
I do agree that kyledavid80 is not a high school student. That is very evident. If anyone believes that he is in high school, I have a bridge I want to sell to him.
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03-24-2008, 03:18 AM
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#383 | | Junior Member
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Thanks for the advice dysonfree! I'm perfectly relaxed and how much do you want for that bridge?
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03-24-2008, 03:20 AM
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#384 | | Senior Member
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But it was large enough to discern the fact that there are 3 different versions of the e-mail.
| Yes, but the focus here is not on that there are different emails, but what those emails mean. You have argued that each has a different significance. I argue that collectively they are nothing more than a nice reminder of the impending decisions, and that your position is based on too small a sampling size for anything close to accuracy. Quote: |
I do agree that kyledavid80 is not a high school student. That is very evident. If anyone believes that he is in high school, I have a bridge I want to sell to him.
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03-24-2008, 03:27 AM
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#385 | | Member
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wait they changed the public email???
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03-24-2008, 03:30 AM
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#386 | | Junior Member
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let's all go to sleep now.
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03-24-2008, 03:30 AM
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#387 | | Junior Member
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Nice thread. OK, heres the rundown so far. Lextat strongly put forth the theory of a likely letter and learnmestuff strongly denied it. First, lexstat you would be only human for assuming this is a likely letter because UCLA did this too with the engineering letter and told me over the phone that it did not mean that "you were in or will be accepted." Obviously now we know and have know from before that the ENGINEERING letter means automatic acceptance.
So, learnmestuff u don't need to be quite so rude and an arrogant B**tard by criticizing a person's theory, which is also against rules. O wow you got into Stanford, your the best happy!? IF YOU think we are all losers for doing this, Why the hell are you posting on CC and on this thread. I assure you that no one would miss your opinionated replies.
Geeez, go with the flow and put your 2 cents into it, but dnt be rude. Guys, really it could be a mistake with the mix up of editions and the codes on the bottom led me to think diffrnt categories of applicants at first, but it cud be many more things.
The fact that we cannot for 100% explain this phenomena means that we should just leave our arguments as speculation and not propose something as absolute as an acceptance.
O Congrats to learnmestuff for getting into Stanford. I got rejected early admission. I understand your partial feelings of elitism. Gl to you.
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03-24-2008, 03:32 AM
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#388 | | Junior Member
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Oh wow, its 26 pages now?! |
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03-24-2008, 04:01 AM
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#389 | | Junior Member
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Yes, it's late, but FWIW, the original letter posted on UB website is now changed to include the verbiage "we're worth the wait" - so clearly somebody made a change this evening.
| It's in a different part of the letter, and "before you give them your response" is absent.
I got #3, and I'd consider myself a borderline candidate (4.17 GPA, 2070 SATs). I was rejected from UCLA at thier engineering college, and I didn't get their letter so the theory could be possible. Not going to get my hopes up though. Btw I was accepted at UCSD and all other UCs I applied to...
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03-24-2008, 10:36 AM
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#390 | | Junior Member
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| Proof That Admissions to Top Universities is Random . . . or of Somehting Else
Okay, I'm definitely a relative "newbie" when it comes to CC.
CIT, you state that Learnmestuff was accepted EA at Stanford? Either that is a load of hooey, or it is "Exhibit A" for the notion that admissions are completely and entirely random at the top universities. I subscribe to the former theory.
And then, another more seasoned poster posits that kyledavid is actually NOT a high school student, despite his claims to the contrary. I do find it very interesting that a high schooler would be willing and able to find the time to make 6000 posts on CC! Maybe I don't want to buy that bridge after all . . .
Finally, CIT, you are absolutely right. These are just theories on this thread. You seem very sincere and very bright and I wish you the best of luck in getting into Cal (if that's want you want)!
For those of you who do eventually attend Berkeley, if you take any of their Econ classes, one of the first things you will learn about economic theory is that economic models of behavior are based on the notion that human beings are "rational actors." Thus, applying that notion to the Cal Admissions Office (because, after all, human labor and therefore human capital was expended to send out the 3 different versions of the e-mail), there must be a rational explanation for the 3 different versions.
Of course, theoretical economic models do not always work in practice (i.e., human beings are not in fact always rational), so it could very well be the case that Cal decided to expend extra resources to send 3 different e-mails just for the heck of it.
Again, best of luck to you CIT, and . . .
Go Bears!
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