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Old 07-07-2008, 05:38 PM   #106
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Berkeley's tuition is less than 4k for Californians?
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Old 07-07-2008, 05:49 PM   #107
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Used to be 5 or 6 years ago. I think this year is about 7k.
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Old 07-07-2008, 06:08 PM   #108
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About 9k, actually: $4465.75/sem for 2008-2009.

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Old 07-08-2008, 03:57 AM   #109
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Turned down Claremont McKenna, Tufts, Occidental, UC Santa Barbara.
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Old 07-08-2008, 10:51 AM   #110
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UCSD, USC, UCI, Arizona State, Duke University.
Go Bears.
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Old 07-09-2008, 08:25 PM   #111
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santabarbara: Hard to believe you got into Caltech, MIT, Stanford etc with a 2110 SAT. SATs arent everything and lightning can sometimes strike, but to have it strike three times without a second thought about Berkeley being the best "choice" ?
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Old 07-09-2008, 08:30 PM   #112
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$8,000 last year, expecting $9,000 this year. Plus room. Plus meals. Yikes!
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Old 07-12-2008, 10:32 PM   #113
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If someone out there is a better-than-average web surfer, The New York Times, did an article (over a year ago but I'm not sure exactly when) about matriculation rates at different school--namely, the private Ivies, Stanford, MIT, and Berkeley, UCLA and another one or two of the public universities--showing a comparison, for example, of what percentage of students choose which university over the other. If I remember correctly, the 5% HYP vs UCB alluded to hereabove is correct. UCB did best against Cornell, where it won 45% of those battles. The Admissions Office at Berkeley would also maintain this information for all of its "peer" school (n.b. jmilton90--UCB does not consider UCSB to be a peer school, neither undergraduate nor graduate).

Also, I find it interesting that jmilton90 has deemed UCB's undergrads to not be on the same par as those at Stanford. If you want to break it down into a purely quantitative comparison, you will find that UCB's students are, on average, as strong as those at Stanford. Both schools have some students who are "off the map" but the average student is not so different. Looking past the numbers, I would say that Stanford, as well as HYP, has a more interesting student body than that you find at Berkeley.

I am from the East Coast, went to boarding school in Massachusetts, and went to California specifically to go to Berkeley (I didn't get into Stanford) and have siblings who all went to school back East. I cherish the experience I had at Berkeley but I would have liked to see a greater ethnic and geographic diversity at the school. Post-Berkeley, I am at an Ivy-league graduate school and I can assure you that my HYP classmates are not remotely any brighter than myself or my classmates from undergrad at Berkeley. My siblings, HYP people, would also agree.
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Old 07-13-2008, 06:44 AM   #114
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If you want to break it down into a purely quantitative comparison, you will find that UCB's students are, on average, as strong as those at Stanford.
How come?

All the requirements for entry to UCB are somewhat lower than for Stanford.

E.g. UCB average SATS score = c.2050; Stanford average = c.2200
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Old 07-13-2008, 10:57 AM   #115
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He's probably talking about post-entry numbers; i.e, grad. school placement rates (at top 25), industry placements, etc, etc.

Besides, the SAT is worthless
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Old 07-13-2008, 04:37 PM   #116
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No, it's not. It's effectively an intelligence test, and IQ has a large effect on almost everything sector of life. Of course, the difference between an average Stanford student with an SAT around 2160 and an average Berkeley student with a 2030 SAT is very difficult to discern.
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Old 07-22-2008, 01:58 PM   #117
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UCBalum: here it is again. it's been discussed ad nauseum on other threads.

The New York Times > Week in Review > Image > Collegiate Matchups: Predicting Student Choices
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Old 07-22-2008, 02:05 PM   #118
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I'm sorry. It's my personal opinion that the SAT is not really a good test to measure "aptitude". I mean, I got a great score, but I know tons of people that I consider to be brilliant, that got what CC would consider "bad" - i.e. 1900-2100.

Besides, the top schools are all decreasing their importance of the SAT in admissions criteria. Wake Forest has even dropped the requirement entirely.
Just my $0.02


PS: California Aggie // Jul 21, 08 // UC study shows SATs do not predict college success
Berkeley thinks so too!

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Old 07-22-2008, 02:34 PM   #119
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I turned down ________ for Berkeley
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