very very low GPA but high SAT.. any chance at all at Berkeley?
hi all, I was wondering if I had any chance at Berkeley at all with such a low GPA.. my GPA is terrible, 3.33 unweighted 3.77 weighted (i don't think Berkeley does capped GPAs.. so this is my uncapped GPA since I took more than 4 semesters of honors/AP classes.. capped would be lower) though i guess i took really challenging/hard courses (the hardest ones offered and i took calc BC AP my junior year). got 5s on all the AP tests (even in AP physics where i got a C in... hard teacher but also my fault.. got my act together but it was too late to make up the last few years). huge upward trend, pulled up all my grades to get a 4.0 UW 2nd semester junior year.. so you can probably tell how low my grades were sophomore year and 1st semester junior year.
i took the SAT once and got 1980, studied a lot and took it again to get 2300. SAT II, even though i got Cs in physics i got 780 on the physics SAT II and 780 on math, 800 on history.
pretty good ec's, did sports for many years (played 2 sports and reached a very high level in one of them).. 5 years of community service/magazine editor, 3 years of officer of a small club. went to the national level of a business club my freshman year (but didnt have time to do the club the 3 years after that.. i dont know how much that will hurt =/), also entered in a science/engineering project and got to the regional level.
Also, pretty good essays (i hope).
do I have any chance at Berkeley with such a terrible GPA? have people been accepted with such low GPAs before (and not athletes etc)? thanks.
My S had 2240 SAT's with a 3.4 UW/3.75 W GPA, and was rejected by UC Berkeley.
If you are high SAT/low GPA, UC Berkeley probably isn't where you will do best. The UC's appear to be relatively fixated on GPA in comparison to SAT. One reason for this is they have been banned from AA, and thus lower the importance of GPA in comparison to SAT, at to snag the high GPA low SAT URM's from at risk laden high schools.
Run your numbers at University of California: StatFinder, although it doesn't distinguish between SAT's of 2200 and 2300. It will give you a percent likelihood of admission to each UC. Post your result below.
You should shop your outsized SAT's around some private colleges, who are ever mindful of USN&WR rankings, and one of whom may be tempted to increase their published 25-75% SAT averages at the expense of their unpublished average GPA's.
to tell you the truth, i honestly do not find UC berkeley to be that difficult of a school to get into.
and yes, there are plenty of people who got in w/o stellar GPAs as long as other aspects remedied their applications.
upward trend is good, and that SAT score is hard to ignore.
all those ECs are just frosting on top of the cake
are you instate or out? if you are instate you have an even better chance.
i think you have a very good chance of getting in.
thanks for the link. that's discouraging . i think i have the Ecs, SAT, but just the GPA is so low. im also applying to other UCs, UCLA, SD, Davis, Irvine, SB. besides that, schools like Boston University and UPenn (just what the hell, why not).
i tried the link, but it looks like it only gives you information.. not %s of admission. do you know the exact steps to follow to get in?
edit: i am also instate.. my school sends a lot of people to berkeley/ucla and other ucs every year.
edit: uncapped gpa is like 3.77, so i think my capped gpa is like 3.62 or 3.63 or something like that (=(). i thought berkeley looks at uncapped gpa though.
haha yea, i figured i was unlikely to get in.. but just wondering if there have ever been people with such low gpas but higher SATs/good ECs/good essays who have gotten in, or if it was even worth it to apply.
i go to a pretty competitive public school that sends tons of people to berkeley/ucla and other ucs (like i said) as well as top colleges like ivies, MIT, and stanford. seems like it alternates years where more people go to berkeley or ucla.. for example, 3 years ago was a "ucla year", 2 years ago was a berkeley year, last year was a ucla year, so technically this year is a "berkeley year". the last "berkeley year", i believe 30+ people went to berkeley (i'm assuming more got in).
UCs, UCLA, SD, Davis, Irvine, SB. besides that, schools like Boston University and UPenn (just what the hell, why not).
No USC? You'd have a real shot there, as they really like to increase their 25-75% average (although they too rejected my high SAT/low GPA S). Big gap between BU and UPenn. Nothing in between, such as Cornell, Northwestern, Pomona, University of Chicago, Georgetown?
oh, i applied to schools like cornell, dartmouth, uchicago, USC as well (just didn't list everything.. haha i feel like those are big reaches so i was a little embarrassed to say them ). but berkeley would be one of my top choices still.. i would easily chose it over USC.
lol i went to: Undergraduate admissions rates and counts by applicant term
> Freshmen, entered from high school
> full year, 07-08
> California residents
> Berkeley, LA, SD
> Average characteristics (means) for applicants, admits and enrollees
only lets you pick one.. so i chose SAT first.
berkeley was for full year applicants 1212, admits 1323.. la was 1183 for applicants, 1326 for admits. sd was 1192 for applicants, 1290 for admits..
thats what i got when i followed the steps..
and weighted capped for berkeley was 3.82, la was 3.77, sd was 3.75 for APPLICANTS. however the admits were above 4 for them.. like 4.1 ish.
so my sat seems to be more than 200 points above average and around .4-.5 below average for gpa (=/).
i worked pretty hard on my essays and got it proofread by my sister (haha she attends berkeley.. for grad school), so i'm hoping those are good.
my gpa for sophomore year and 1st semester junior year were just TERRIBLE though. 1st semester sophomore year was under 3.. (took a really hard course load, probably the hardest of the whole class of ~600 people, and really paid the price). if i didnt get 4.0 UW 2nd semester junior year, my GPA would have been like 3.1x probably.