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Old 10-31-2007, 01:15 PM   #1486
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silly101:

Michel Moraga has sent out multiple emails starting last year regarding CS 31 openings - it has not extended to Spring terms. In fact, an email about that topic was just sent out today again.

This means that CS 31 is flexible schedule-wise as long as you are not EE (excluding EEBM) or CSE for engineers. It is not a prerequisite class for other classes for Chemical Engineering.

In any sense, CS 31 is a tough class for anyone who hasn't had programming experience .

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For Fall 06, they changed MAE 20 to CS 31
Kind of an odd change in my opinion. I think MATLAB is still imporant for some practical usage, right?

As for MAEs, I don't think Introduction C++ and Autodesk Inventor is enough for large companies. Why not just focus on ProE for the design aspect?
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:29 PM   #1487
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It's kind of interesting that Nachenberg is teaching 32 again .
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:43 AM   #1488
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sux they made cs 170a fall only...the alternate class for cs majors was not as appealing as this class, from what i remember...now i gotta wait a year?!?! uhhh, maybe i should take that other one...we still need engr 183/185 right?!?! i'm following the newest catalog if that makes any difference...i remember all engineers having to take an ethics class
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Old 11-01-2007, 06:00 AM   #1489
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TAKE NACHENBERG!!!

and he said last year that he might be back so it's not that interesting
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Old 11-01-2007, 08:40 PM   #1490
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Kind of an odd change in my opinion. I think MATLAB is still imporant for some practical usage, right?

As for MAEs, I don't think Introduction C++ and Autodesk Inventor is enough for large companies. Why not just focus on ProE for the design aspect?
Yes it is strange to get rid of MAE 20. A lot of courses use Matlab like MAE 171, 107, 169, and 182C. Most of the professors I know use either Fortran or Matlab. Even on the assist website it said fortran was recommended.

In my experience, C++ has been almost useless in my ME courses. I've only taken C++ and I've been able wing it on courses that use Matlab. Knowing C++ just gave me general idea of how the computer will compute whatever kind of matlab code I put in it. I just had learn about the different commands and other things as time went on.
The Civil engineering dept still offers matlab, so ME's can MAYBE take C&EE 15 and then petition for credit for CS 31.
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Old 11-03-2007, 02:45 PM   #1491
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flopsy is it typical for a cs&e major to not take chem 2nd and third quarter of freshman year? during orientation we filled out these sheets with schedules for the whole year and winter quarter the lady said that i should be doing like
math 32b
physics 1a
cs 32
ge

is that a typical schedule?
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Old 11-03-2007, 03:10 PM   #1492
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If you're referring to Chem 20A, most CSE majors take it during Fall Quarter of freshman year. That schedule is indeed typical of CSE majors for Winter Quarter of freshman year.
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Old 11-03-2007, 09:48 PM   #1493
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ya i'm taking chem 20a, was just making sure that most dont take any other chem freshman year, thanks
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:02 PM   #1494
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is it true that engineering students get a certain amount of free printing? if so, where do we go to get that?
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:25 PM   #1495
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The ESUC lounge. You have to be a ESUC member though.
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Old 11-04-2007, 02:24 PM   #1496
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ORL gives $5 worth of free print credit (100 pages) if you activate your account. You an receive more if you attend the RLCC's workshops too.

I think you get a few hundred pages of free printing with ESUC membership, plus bonus 100 if you solve their riddles (though I'm not totally certain if they do this anymore).
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Old 11-04-2007, 02:29 PM   #1497
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sorry, what is ESUC?
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Old 11-04-2007, 02:38 PM   #1498
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ESUC is FREE for now, because they screwed up the computers. Everyone is logged in as admin. The riddle gives you candy. I think Sona's doing it now.

ESUC = engineering society of UCLA. 5800 Boelter across from Seascafe
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Old 11-04-2007, 04:44 PM   #1499
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is there some sort of membership card we should have picked up if we payed the $5?
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Old 11-04-2007, 05:05 PM   #1500
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yeah there should have..

you should be able to pick up your membership card if an officer is around in the esuc lounge. i believe they have officer hours posted on the door.
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