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11-12-2007, 09:36 PM
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| yep, it's just three classes + laid back research (for the most part, I'm working with a postdoc and a grad in physical chem)
I guess the question I should've just asked how much time projects take for CS 31 for someone with no programming experience, but is pretty fluent with computers (no HTML experience either though..) | 
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11-13-2007, 01:24 AM
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| Fluency with computers software has very little correlation in completing the projects , unless it's using Visual Studio or similar compilers.
I cannot give you a definite amount of time to complete projects, but for ME:
3-4 hours for Project 1-2
20 hours for Project 3
10-15 hours for Project 4-6
15-20 hours for Project 7
I guess it depends on your logic aptitude, since you haven't had any programming experience. I think about 1/5 of the hours spent for me was just in frustration and sitting in front of the computer :[. | |
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11-13-2007, 01:53 AM
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| I tried learning basic a few years back. I could..run DOS at one time. It'll be different and tough, but i think I have a light enough quarter to focus on it. | |
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11-13-2007, 03:22 AM
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| almost a third of your time will be spent banging your head against the wall figuring out what you're gonna do, two-thirds will be spent cursing and debugging, and the little fraction left over will be the actual writing. BASIC won't help you.
can i get away with not going to lecture since i already have experience? they only get to pointers...and i figure the only thing i'll die from is recursion. since i didn't get it after two classes i don't think rohr will help me understand it any better. | |
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11-13-2007, 04:41 AM
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| yea project 3 was not fun... lol... still waiting for my grade on that one ><
yea so much of your time is spent thinking the logic through | |
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11-13-2007, 01:45 PM
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| What was project 3 for you guys? Mines was DDR . .
Pointers isn't the last thing in 31, though it is the hardest concept reached. I think it's classes.
Actually, I would say half the time spent is 'stepping through', even for experienced programmers. | |
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11-13-2007, 02:58 PM
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| Heh, heard about that DDR project from my friend and I thought the idea was hilarious.
Project 3 this year was a spam checker program. We had to program several tests that would increment a spam score if conditions were met (>3 exclamation marks, keywords, capitalization %, etc) and declare if the email was spam if it went over a certain spam score. | |
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11-13-2007, 05:28 PM
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| I ended up just ordering the C++ book right now internationally. I figure even that although I spend maybe an extra 20 than buying it used... It'll last a long time since I'll keep it with me. Any pointers on where to start (beyond the, my name is Deuces, basic program). | |
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11-14-2007, 04:31 PM
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| How do breadth courses work? Do you just take any three upper divs from one department? | |
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11-15-2007, 09:35 PM
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I ended up just ordering the C++ book right now internationally. I figure even that although I spend maybe an extra 20 than buying it used... It'll last a long time since I'll keep it with me. Any pointers on where to start (beyond the, my name is Deuces, basic program).
| C++ is difficult to self-teach, because you don't learn from examples in the book. For first times, it's a trial and error game. Download Visual Studio.
I did what you did last year; I think I read half the book before fall quarter and learned the concepts, but I still couldn't program on the spot. It probably had to do with my weaker logic skills. Try doing the previous quarter's projects.
But yeah, if you want a start, read the first few chapter, and pracitce the sample programming projects in the book (that's something Smallberg would advise you to do also for those going from 31->32). Quote: |
How do breadth courses work? Do you just take any three upper divs from one department?
| Nano is interesting, but difficult to attain because some of the classes are only offered once a year, and one of the 4 is offered only once every 2 years!
The link Deuces provided has everything you need to know. It's amazing/a riot how non-MAE/ChE can take 20B for breadth! | |
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11-16-2007, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Moldau How do breadth courses work? Do you just take any three upper divs from one department? | Just three courses from any one area that's listed on the technical breadth list. Pay attention to the restrictions on certain courses.
There is a way to avoid going outside your field of study from the technical breadth. You could substitute 2 departmental breadth courses plus take one course from the engineering science area. This would satisfy the engineering science option of the technical breadth. You would then need to replace those 2 courses that you used for the technical breadth with some elective course in your major.
This is what I am doing for ME, I used my EE 100 and MSE 104 to satisfy the technical breadth. | |
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11-16-2007, 01:26 AM
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| Yeah, just check the course catalog. Usually you can finish it all within one year (they'll put one per quarter through the year). I'm gonna do my TBA junior year in either nanotech or tech management. The research i'm doing right now has a lot to do with nanoscience and nanoscale imaging, but I'm feeling like the business jump is in order if I plan on doing an M.B.A. I'd really like to do two technical breadth areas, but that probably won't happen. | |
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11-16-2007, 02:41 AM
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| How tough would a biomedical engineering class be for a non-engineering major? I'm in the MIMG (microbio ) major and some biomed engineering classes were just approved for electives, and they seem really interesting. CM180 in particular, as I'm planning to pursue dental school. Would I be really lost in the class? | |
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11-16-2007, 01:30 PM
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| check the class pre-reqs - i'm not too sure since I haven't taken any. | |
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