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04-07-2007, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by pituoe So, my question is this : are all engineering students so geared toward math and science that only the top of these students do well, or can students with stronger English and language backgrounds still hold their own in engineering, even if it means working a bit harder than everyone else? | First of all, let me say that a lot of engineering students have gotten 700+ on their SAT I Writing, so it's not like they're English-challenged and can't read or write as fluently as a CL&S major. Yes, less-gifted students definitely hold their own in engineering through hard work. In every Computer Science class, there's a few Good Will Huntings who don't take notes in lecture or go to discussion because they just get everything, but there aren't enough of them to occupy all the A/A- grades, and that's where the hard workers fit in. Anyways, more and more grading emphasis is being put on "lab reports" and "presentation/oral communication skills" due to ABET requirements, so you may see syllabi with grading schemes in your favor by the time you hit those upper-division courses.  | 
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04-07-2007, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by vaav Is it possible for entering freshman to change major from CSE to EE ? What's the process and how soon can this be done ? Is it possible to do it during orientation ? | Yes. Talk to your assigned Engineering orientation counselor at orientation, and he'll take care of it. | |
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04-07-2007, 03:59 PM
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| How feasible is study abroad for engineering majors (specifically ME)? Is the major too prescripted to manage it? Are there any approved programs, maybe to an English-speaking place with engineering classes? | |
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04-07-2007, 05:14 PM
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| Also interested in the studying abroad question - seems like studying abroad for engineering majors is not recommended? | |
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04-07-2007, 09:05 PM
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| How soon can I transfer to L&S from Engineering? If I plan on going to graduate school would it be wise to transfer into a major where a high GPA is more attainable than in engineering? | |
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04-07-2007, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by hiker How feasible is study abroad for engineering majors (specifically ME)? Is the major too prescripted to manage it? Are there any approved programs, maybe to an English-speaking place with engineering classes? | I can neither recommend nor speak against study abroad programs, because I don't know any engineering majors who've done them. If you can get equivalent course credit for your studies abroad, and it doesn't screw up your graduation plans, then that's what matters most. | |
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04-07-2007, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by solace2718 How soon can I transfer to L&S from Engineering? If I plan on going to graduate school would it be wise to transfer into a major where a high GPA is more attainable than in engineering? | You can apply to transfer as soon as you arrive on campus as a freshman, so that you'll be evaluated based on your high school performance. The answer to your second question depends on what kind of graduate school/program you're interested in. Engineering graduate programs have more leeway for GPA in favor of GRE, and such. | |
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04-08-2007, 01:18 AM
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| what is the retension rate for UCLA's EE each year. What is it for Cal's EECS? | |
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04-08-2007, 02:43 AM
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| I don't know the retention rate. It's pretty good compared to CS though. My best guess is ~90% per year. | |
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04-08-2007, 10:06 AM
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| hey i have been admitted into chemical engineering for the fall of this year however i now want civil. Can I change major prior to the first day so when day one comes I can start in my desired major? Also how is the workload in this major and is it reasonable to graduate in four years? Thanks | |
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04-08-2007, 11:05 AM
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| Studying abroad -
It can be difficult to do during the school year in an engineering major but my older daughter (4th year CS at UCSD) did a study abroad during the summer. She took a history course which counted for some GE credit. Since the goal for most is really to just have the abroad experience, this is a good compromise. My younger daughter (CS at UCLA) will likely do the same thing. | |
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04-08-2007, 01:37 PM
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| by retention rate, I mean what is the survival rate and the "kick-out/force-out" rate. I heard in Cal, by the end of sophomore year, over 50% of ppl were kicked out of EECS. | |
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04-08-2007, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by stealth99 hey i have been admitted into chemical engineering for the fall of this year however i now want civil. Can I change major prior to the first day so when day one comes I can start in my desired major? Also how is the workload in this major and is it reasonable to graduate in four years? Thanks | Yes. Your Orientation Counselor is supposed to facilitate early major changes within HSSEAS. The workload is much more reasonable in Civil Engineering than in Chemical Engineering, from what I've heard. Civil Engineering majors are definitely more likely to graduate in four years than Chemical Engineering majors. | |
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04-08-2007, 01:59 PM
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| thank you so much flopsy this will definitely help with my decision.
Edit** Just one last question when posters refer to "EE" this is electrical engineering i presume? or I thought it might be environmental engin. Lastly what are your views on civil/environmental engineering as far as course load and also how students generally view the program? thanks
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04-08-2007, 04:37 PM
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| Electrical Engineering is referred to as EE, and Civil/Environmental Engineering is referred to as CEE. I wish I could tell you about the major, but I don't know anyone in the major because it's relatively small at UCLA. | |
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