fallenstar0434

For Pre Med Chem do we take 14A,B,C,D then the 30 series?

jam3rz

i think its just the 14 series.

fallenstar0434

awesome.... haha a lot shorter than i thought. sweet done in chem with 2 more quarters!

Jinobi

dont forget the labs, 14BL and 14CL

VTECaddict

oh how i wish i was int he 14 series.

jam3rz

im actually kinda glad i'm not...premed competition does not a good learning environment make.

Jinobi

haha, eh. i havent really noticed "competition" amongt us premeds. unless you consider the insane curves that those handful of overstudious premeds get.

jam3rz

haha yep, those are the ones.

cambridgeguy

I'm pretty sure that you have to take a couple of biochem classes as well. Get ready to memorize the amino acids.

fallenstar0434

yea haha in chem14 i never reall saw the true competitiveness of ppl. The ls series is a whole new thing. People basically try to memorize the entire book and recite it during discussion etc + with a harder curve than chem..

Emmeline

really... which ls class are you in? ( o_o)

i never really noticed the competitiveness of premed classes... the exam avgs for my MTs for LS1 are high and all but the tests were pretty easy (in terms of type of questions and material) there's just a lot of stuff to memorize.

fallenstar0434

now that you put it that way, its prolly more the nature of the class than the competitiveness.

TrueBruin

what are someways to practice really complicated problems? Use an advance textbook?
I'm doing problems off of the Oxytoby (Modern Chemistry) text book and those problems are alot more difficult than the regular chem. books. However, the exam questions are alot more harder. Is there anyway to get a hold of the same quality of problems to practice on?

VTECaddict

have you tried looking for old exams on voh?

TrueBruin

Yes I have... but only some of them. But thanks for reminding me. I forgot about them. I looked over Scherri's chem 20A exams and they're really concept base (which I like). However, I'm currently taking Schwartz and the first midterm was alot harder than Scherri's exams. I felt really prepared going in as I study off the Oxytoby book (which is considered an advance book). Unfortunately, I didn't fare too well on it. Considering the fact that 16 people had a zero out of 100 (and they really tried, not like blank exams were turn in), I did okay. I really want to recieve an A on the next one. It's one of those classes where you learn alot, but the grade doesn't reflect it. Any advice?