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pixiedanzerpixiedanzer Posts: 770Registered User Member
Does anybody honestly know the overall prevalence of rape, sexual assault, etc... ON the UCLA campus? I was watching some late night news thing that talked about how most colleges in the US aren't up front about the crime rates on campus and many go unreported to the public.

I found out online that in 2002, three men (not UCLA students) raped a girl in De Neve which esp. freaks me out seeing as how I'll be living there next year.
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  • IcarusIcarus Posts: 4,336Registered User Senior Member
    well, i certainly don't think that girl was raped because of where she lived :)
    honestly, the rates of sexual assult on campus is very low. The problem with such things is that many (if not most) go unreported, which is not at all beneficial to the victim. I can tell you that without a doubt, petty/grand theft and burglary are the most common crimes on campus, and thats usually because people simply aren't careful with their stuff.
  • passerbypasserby Posts: 617Registered User Member
    When you say "petty/grand theft and burglary," does that mean only small items like wallets, ipods, and cellphones, or do we have to also be careful of "bigger" items like TVs, PS2s, computers, laptops, etc that are in our dorm rooms?

    I dont wanna walk in my dorm room one day and see that all my stuff was raided...
  • allenaallena Posts: 1,716Registered User Senior Member
    Lock your door when you're not in the room, that goes a very long way!
  • pixiedanzerpixiedanzer Posts: 770Registered User Member
    well, i certainly don't think that girl was raped necessarily because of where she lived
    ^^

    obviously, it can happen anywhere. i'm just saying it makes it all the more scary if it happens where you're supposed to feel safest and during a weekDAY of all things, which i assume is a time most people have their doors unlocked and even wide open.
  • IcarusIcarus Posts: 4,336Registered User Senior Member
    passerby, very rarely is something stolen from a dorm room unless it is left wide open with no one inside. Most thefts occur because people decide to leave their laptops sitting out on a table in Powell while they go to the bathroom or something like that. As long as you use common sense, you won't have any problems.
  • kfc4ukfc4u Posts: 3,415Registered User Senior Member
    go here for stats (scroll to bottom):
    http://www.ucpd.ucla.edu/ucpd/clery.htm

    nevertheless, rape is underreported:
    http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/news/articles.asp?id=30961

    procedures for sexual assault victims:
    http://www.ucpd.ucla.edu/ucpd/programs_sexasslt.html


    "When you say "petty/grand theft and burglary," does that mean only small items like wallets, ipods, and cellphones, or do we have to also be careful of "bigger" items like TVs, PS2s, computers, laptops, etc that are in our dorm rooms?"

    my friend (who lives in the apartments) got his car stolen. the UCPD eventually found it but the window was broken and they took some bigger items in his car (i forgot exactly what though). be careful of laptops and other portable devices (game consoles, etc.), which has the potential to be easily stolen in the dorms.

    don't be like me, i bolt my door everyday. i'm just lucky to not have anything been stolen.. either that or i had really honest floormates.


    "obviously, it can happen anywhere. i'm just saying it makes it all the more scary if it happens where you're supposed to feel safest"

    a lot of rapes occur where the rapist is someone who the person who was raped actually knows, or is maybe a friend of. now that's the scary part, because contrary to popular belief, it's usually not the random scary person on the street but a friend you went to a frat party with and got drunk and woke up and then you feel sore. be responsible, don't get too drunk, and make sure you have some reliable friends with you.


    and finally, there's a "rape trial" that's basically a shortcut from the dorms to the frat houses. i've never been there but i heard it got its name because it is a poorly litted trial and people can hide behind the bushes there.
  • pixiedanzerpixiedanzer Posts: 770Registered User Member
    "We have to identify the issue of rape as a men's issue. Over 99 percent of rape is perpetrated by men," Katz said. "You have women being taught not to put their drinks down, to avoid vulnerable situations ... That's all risk reduction for women. It's not about the woman and her behavior; it's about the man. We need to have a shift in our whole conceptual thinking about this."
    (from the Daily Bruin article)

    --- SERIOUSLY! props to the writer of that article. I hate that the whole mentality is that it's all up to females to break the cycle, to change their behavior, etc...Of course that's all true, that we do need to have our guards up. I come from an all girls high school, and during the transition week leading toward graduation, we had a whole day dedicated to self-defense training. For three hours we had this trainer replicate hypothetical situations and how to react physically etc...and you wonder do people from other schools have this? do BOYS get any three hours talks about rape? What it really is, how often it takes place, how damaging it is to society, and what the consequences are if reported?

    Somehow if a rape takes place, it's always the woman that seems to be left the humiliated and embarassed one. Just in general, why is it that girls have to get deemed s-l-u-t-s or h-o-e-s, but for guys, it's okay to be a p.i.m.p? I hate double standards.

    AHH bothers me so much.

    oh well anyways i just know i have to be extra responsible for myself and not to walk alone at night etc...
  • flopsyflopsy Posts: 8,368Registered User Senior Member
    This is why I stay away from the "rape trail" and the "frat row" in general when I head to the apartments... I just don't like the cut of their jib.
  • aim78aim78 Posts: 1,336Registered User Senior Member
    Well, if a man commits rape, he's a criminal and a nutjob. A 3 hour talk wouldn't change that. It's up to women to be careful.
  • pixiedanzerpixiedanzer Posts: 770Registered User Member
    "a lot of rapes occur where the rapist is someone who the person who was raped actually knows, or is maybe a friend of. now that's the scary part, because contrary to popular belief, it's usually not the random scary person on the street but a friend you went to a frat party with and got drunk and woke up and then you feel sore."

    so yeah most rapes that take place aren't committed by those psycho crazies walking down the streets at night---they are committed by the most normal unsuspicious looking people, your own acquaintances! people you already know and think you can trust.

    "it's up to women to be careful"

    of course!

    "A 3 hour talk wouldn't change that."

    believe it or not many guys have different ideas of what rape is and how serious it is. some of them don't even know when they're doing something wrong!
    who knows what people would be changed by a 3 hour talk, but it will at least make caring people more aware. it is up to guys to know to control themselves and be responsible for their actions even when they're completely intoxicated or drunk just as much as it is up to girls to not place themselves in bad situations. guys need to learn to be more respectful of girls period. They should be just as active in wanting to stop rapes, especially if they know it goes on around them.
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