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Old 05-12-2008, 04:50 AM   #31
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Leviathan, I agree with you about the student to teacher ratio, that aspect of UCM is incredible. Academics wise, the school is great. But you're risking a lot by coming here at this point in time and unfortunately, there's nothing that can be done about that. You need to really re-evaluate your decision to come here and think about it real hard.

Looking back, I think that UCM is kind of the easy route that will ultimately not lead me anywhere because competitive grad schools like med and law schools will ALWAYS take someone with similar stats (even if they're a bit lower) from a more prestigious and recognized university so keep that in mind.
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Old 05-12-2008, 10:24 AM   #32
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UC Merced Accreditation Time line
UC Merced Accreditation
2011!

I'm curious, since I will be graduating in 2012, would all of this still affect me and other 2012 graduates? UCM will be accredited a year before i graduate (if UCM is approved, of course), so I should be ok right? Harvard, Yale Law school would consider UCM applicants right? UGH! This is stressful news...
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Old 05-12-2008, 04:33 PM   #33
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Going on my intuition, a newly accredited school doesn't really have enough shine as opposed to a well established university when trying to get into graduate program.
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Old 05-12-2008, 04:35 PM   #34
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vin-di-cation baby, Finnaly another UC Merced student can conform that UCM isnt worth its weight in....copper lol. For all potential freshmen: You were tricked and hoodwinked into coming here, I would drop before you send them your first check.
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Old 05-12-2008, 05:50 PM   #35
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^^ Leviathan... you cannot honestly expect to go to Yale/Harvard graduate school from UC Merced right? They take top students from top Universities. A more realstic Grad school would be another UC, which would still be a reach considering what people say about UCM's reputation.
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Old 05-12-2008, 05:59 PM   #36
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UGH! wat about UCR? If i went to UCR do you think i would be able to go to harvard/yale law school?
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Old 05-12-2008, 06:07 PM   #37
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You can get into Yale or Harvard Law from either UCM or UCR, but it won't be easy getting in from either. You'll need near perfect LSAT scores and a 3.9+ GPA. Unlike graduates from top schools, you won't be cut much slack...you'll need to have an amazing application across the board.
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Old 05-12-2008, 06:29 PM   #38
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Leviathan you are being silly. What makes you think you are going to have the stats to get into Harvard/Yale graduate school when you didn't get into Harvard/Yale undergrad? There is a lot more to getting into these schools than just perfect grades and scores. They have applicants from all over the world at top Universities.

C-walker - Harvard and Yale are bad examples. Even people graduating from Harvard undergrad will have trouble getting into Harvard grad. Merced students are way down on their list I am sure. You should not have any expectations of getting admitted to Harvard law school entering UCM undergrad.

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Old 05-12-2008, 06:50 PM   #39
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I don't believe I'm being silly. I believe anythings possible, obviously you don't. Just because I didn't get into Harvard/Yale undergrad doesn't mean I won't get into their grad school. Your actually insulting me, whether intentional or not, you are.
I surely can't predict the future and neither can you. So, don't tell me that I can't or won't get into Harvard's/Yale's Law School.
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Old 05-12-2008, 09:28 PM   #40
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^ lol man, chill. I have no intention of insulting you, but seriously... no one gets into Harvard/Yale, undergrad or grad. Even if you have a 3.9+ with a close to perfect LSAT (or whatever grad degree you're getting).. which is pretty hard to come by btw... you will have trouble getting in.

You should think about NOW, not four years from now. I know that I get a little caught up in the future as well, but I am not in ivy league la-la land. I think Detox would agree from his personal experience, Merced is not really Nationally known (yet) and you should come to some realization to what Merced is going to give you. If you succeed at Merced and it is established as a University in 2011, there are good odds that you can go to a pretty darn good grad school and make a sh** load of money with your career, but Harvard.. meh.

Like many successful students at Merced, I bet you a nickel that you'll transfer to a top tier UC in two years because you will come to realization that Merced will not lead you to a top tier grad school. Transfer to LA/C/SD with top grades and good scores and all of a sudden Harvard is within reach.
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Old 05-12-2008, 09:39 PM   #41
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^^ Couldn't have said it better myself.

I will add something to that though. UCM will still be worth nothing even in 2011 after it's accredited. It will need at least a good 10-20 years before it can be truly established, and even then I think it will be on par with the lower end UCs like Riverside and Santa Cruz.
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Old 05-12-2008, 10:53 PM   #42
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The Community Colleges of the UCs...UCM. At least that's what UCM is considered at my high school..

I think we owe a big thank you to Detox, Premed4Life, and MORECOWBELL!!. Without them, most of us would be still stuck under the false guise that UCM has a lot offer. I'm not trying to degrade the school since reputation obviously comes with time (as do most things worth anything in life) but to restate what the current UCM students have said in a nutshell, UCM -> Transfer to Top Tier UC -> Top Tier UC Grad Program -> Living the good life.

So on behalf of myself and myself, Thank you guys for the information you've provided this forum.

And a special thank you to Cali Trumpet for being the realist most of us are reluctant to be on the internet. ;]
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Old 05-12-2008, 11:26 PM   #43
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Before, You guys totally freak out with regards to transferring. May I suggest you go to the UCM website. Pull up alumni and read some of the grad profiles of recent graduates.
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Old 05-13-2008, 12:29 AM   #44
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I'm glad I had the chance to help. I won't be back for a week or so due to finals but feel free to PM me with any questions you guys may have and I'll get back to you in a little while.

Good luck everyone!
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Old 05-13-2008, 01:32 AM   #45
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fusionall : thanks I almost felt obligated to help everyone out and tell them what really goes down at UC merced. People are all too often hoodwinked by the tour guides here, and take their word as Law. "Small class sizes"....great but it doesnt matter if the student teacher ratio is 1:1, Im still not getting into my top grad school after working my a@@ off for a 3.8? Outragous.
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