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Old 07-30-2008, 06:42 PM   #1
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AP Biology Credit

Hey guys,

According to the "Advanced Placement Credit" chart (for Warren College), I am exempted from "two courses from Bio 1 or 2" and that I "may not take Bio 1 or 2." Are Bio 1 and 2 the same as BILD 1 and 2? I'm assuming that they are. However, I intended on taking BILD 1-3 in preparation for the MCAT. Would you guys recommend taking the BILD series(w/o getting credit) or taking the upper-division Bio courses?

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Old 07-30-2008, 11:18 PM   #2
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Bio 1 and 2 = BILD 1 and 2 (it was Bio 1 and 2 years ago...)

I didn't take bild 1 and 2, and I don't think it made much of a difference in my upper divs, but if you don't really remember any AP bio that well it may help to retake them.

And are you a premed? I think that you need to take Bild 1 and 2 for med school admissions (a current premed can probably verify this),so then you wouldn't really have a choice.
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Old 07-31-2008, 01:25 AM   #3
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Yup, I'm premed. Thanks for the insight.

Are there any other premeds who have experienced this dilemma?
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Old 07-31-2008, 02:16 PM   #4
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If you're going to apply to med schools with the 1-year gen bio requirement, you HAVE to take BILD. UCSD won't give you credit for it, but they also won't do anything to keep you enrolling in it.
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Old 07-31-2008, 02:34 PM   #5
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Wait, so it's mandatory that I take BILD? Because according to the admission websites of some medical schools (i.e Johns Hopkins, Drexel, UCSD), the requirements are one year of college-level Biology. Wouldn't that include either lower-division Biology and upper-division Biology? And also, according the med school pamphlet that the UCSD career center published (http://career.ucsd.edu/sa/Handouts/medicine.pdf), it is recommended that we take upper-division Biology courses if we already have AP credit for Biology. I'm totally confused right now, haha.
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Old 07-31-2008, 02:39 PM   #6
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*some* medical schools require one year of college-level bio, meaning anything in the undergrad range covers it.

*other* medical schools specifically call for one year of lower-division biology (general bio, while upper-div has a specialization) and you can't use AP credit or upper-division courses to cover it. UCD is one of these schools. my guess it that the career center just wants you to continue with your major and stay on track -- if the need arises for you to take BILD1/2/3 as a senior, you'll be all the more prepared for it.

chemistry also has a similar problem, and it's not unheard of for graduating seniors to enroll in chem 6a/b/c in efforts to make their med schools happy.
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Old 07-31-2008, 03:10 PM   #7
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Thank you, Astrina, for the clarification!

Although the grades that I will receive in the BILD classes won't show up in my GPA, will the grades show up on my transcript and will medical schools recompute my GPA with those courses?
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the grades will still show up (your professors still report them) but i doubt the med schools will take that into account -- besides, in the grand scheme of things, a few hundredths of a grade point isn't going to matter much?
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Old 07-31-2008, 09:25 PM   #9
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I'm majoring in Physiology and Neuroscience (B136) and was intending to take BILD 3 during my Fall quarter. According to the 2005-2006 edition of the Warren AP Credit chart(http://warren.ucsd.edu/academiclife/...ces/ap_ib.pdf), I may not enroll in BILD 1 and 2 to get additional units. However, on the AP Credit chart from other colleges (such as Revelle: http://revelle.ucsd.edu/aa/ur/chart/ap.pdf and ERC: http://roosevelt.ucsd.edu/academics/...rtv6.25.08.pdf -- these AP charts were recently updated), a score of 5 on the AP Bio exam exempts me from BILD 1,2, and 3. Since I'm in Warren, I was wondering if I am also exempted from BILD 3, or can I still get additional units for enrolling?
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Old 07-31-2008, 11:02 PM   #10
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this is something you should really ask your college. but fwiw, my 5 on the AP only got me out of BILD 1 and 2 -- this was revelle, a few years ago.
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Old 01-02-2009, 05:02 PM   #11
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auditing BILD 1-3 won't satisfy this right?

and even though med schools probably won't look at the BILD grades if u retake them, would this be one of those situations where we would "have" to get like an A, b/c med school admissions ppl would think "if he got a 5 on AP Bio, how come he didn't get an A?"
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Old 01-02-2009, 05:06 PM   #12
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there's no way for you to get a record of you auditing a class, since you're not officially enrolled. also, some med schools (UC Davis is one) won't accept AP credit for the lower-division biology requirement.
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Old 01-02-2009, 06:10 PM   #13
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I'm completely unfamiliar with these school's admissions policies, but he could take these classes P/NP if he doesn't need them for university requirements, couldn't he?
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Old 01-03-2009, 12:11 AM   #14
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some med schools won't let you take prereq classes P/NP
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