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University Yield Rate Hits 40% (and climbing)

truth123truth123 Posts: 584Registered User Member
edited March 2012 in University of Chicago
I finally found official confirmation that the University's yield rate last year was 40%, according to the U.S. Dept. of Education:

College Navigator - University of Chicago

This means that the University's yield rate has increased as follows over the past several years:

Class of 2009: 33%
Class of 2010: 34%
Class of 2011: 36%
Class of 2012: 38%
Class of 2013: 36%
Class of 2014: 39%
Class of 2015: 40%
Class of 2016: 41 or 42%????

Trends in Admissions – The Chicago Maroon

The University is expecting the yield rate to be higher this year, so I am guessing 41% or 42%. This means the yield rate has grown 7 percentage points (or a 21% increase overall) in 6 years, for the Classes of 2009 to 2015. Extrapolating forward, I expect the yield rate to grow another 7 percentage points or 20% overall (up to 48 or 49%) in the next six years.

This has already had some affect on other schools. The Yale Daily News noted last year that Yale has seen a slight but steady decline in yield for the past few years from 70% to 67%:

"(One college consultant) noted that while the slight decline in Yale's yield rate does not “cheapen” the Yale brand, there have been instances in the past where students have turned down Yale for schools such as the University of Chicago and Washington University in St. Louis, which both offer generous merit aid packages."

Yield rate sees slight decline | Yale Daily News

By the way, to see how UChicago's yield rate has changed even more over time, an article from ChicagoMag.com says that UChicago's "yield, or the proportion of students offered admission who ultimately enroll, was up 30 percent in 2009 compared with 1998." [Note: So the yield rate may have only been about 25% in 1998.]

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Replies to: University Yield Rate Hits 40% (and climbing)

  • phurikuphuriku Posts: 2,763Registered User Senior Member
    I think Chicago's yield will be 43-44% this year. You can quote me on that.

    With an improved admitted class (as evidenced by SAT scores and class rank), Chicago had a 40% yield last year, even though it was on the second page of the US News rankings, which I assume is a heavy influence on yield among some sections of the population. With a rank tied at #5 with Caltech, MIT, Stanford, and Penn, I think our yield will automatically increase 2-3 percentage points, with another percentage point added for an increase in financial aid.

    Also, in addition to Yale's decrease in yield, it's noteworthy that Dartmouth's yield recently decreased a few percentage points as well. I think the popularity boost of Chicago, in addition to some other schools like Northwestern and Georgetown, is having an effect on the yield rate of such schools. Despite their perception in the US, Dartmouth and Yale don't have outstanding international reputations, and the upward trend of Chicago in the US News Ranking (in conjunction with a decrease in acceptance rate, etc.) is probably giving Chicago the opportunity to win students over from Dartmouth and Yale that they wouldn't have been able to win over a few years ago.
  • truth123truth123 Posts: 584Registered User Member
    @phuriku I like your way of thinking! I agree it's definitely on the upswing in yield (as with everything else!)

    I consider mine to be a conservative / worst case estimate and I am happy to be proven wrong!
  • HonorsCentaurHonorsCentaur Posts: 1,666Registered User Senior Member
    Phuriku, how does Yale not have an international reputation? I would believe it for Dartmouth, but Yale?
  • phurikuphuriku Posts: 2,763Registered User Senior Member
    Yale does have an international reputation, of course. It's just not as great as its reputation in the US. To see what I mean, look at the world rankings. In both the THES and Shanghai-Jiaotong rankings, Yale ranks 11th in the world. For THES, this means 8th in the US and for Shanghai-Jiaotong, this means 9th in the US. Chicago beats Yale in both rankings.

    Even in the THES Reputation Rankings (derived only from survey results), Yale places 9th worldwide, and gets trounced by Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Berkeley, and Princeton. It's clear that to the rest of the world, Yale isn't considered nearly as prestigious as it is in the US. This leaves institutions like Chicago, which is for instance very highly-regarded in Asia, in a good position to steal some of Yale's admits as it ascends in the US News rankings and lowers its admit rate.
  • david05david05 Posts: 161Registered User Junior Member
    UChicago's yield for the Class of 2016 will go up to 41%~43%. Then the admit rate will be around 12.5~12.9% for this year.

    Yale's yield for the Class of 2015 dropped to 65.2%.
    Yield rate falls again for class of 2015 | Yale Daily News
  • collegeguyyeahcollegeguyyeah Posts: 89Registered User Junior Member
    What is considered a good yield? I would think that being in the 30's is already good since it means 1 in 3 are matriculating and thats given tons of these people are applying to ivies as well. or is this considered low?
  • kellybkkkellybkk Posts: 384- Member
    ^^ 30's is not a good yield. Harvard is in the 80's; Brown in the mid-50's. Most of the other top 20 are in the mid-40's. Hard to move up from there. Once you are in the 50's, you are seriously solid.
  • truth123truth123 Posts: 584Registered User Member
    Harvard's yield rate: 76%
    College Navigator - Harvard University

    Stanford: 70%
    College Navigator - Stanford University

    Yale: 66%
    College Navigator - Yale University

    Princeton: 57%
    College Navigator - Princeton University

    As I say, UChicago's yield rate, as with so many other indicators (retention rate, graduation rate, admit rate) has been improving steadily over time. Yes, UChicago has plenty of room to grow its yield rate, but I actually think this is a good thing.

    If UChicago were like UPenn with 31,200 apps and a 62% yield rate and a 12.6% admit rate, I would say UChicago had maxxed out, as Penn pretty much has.
    College Navigator - University of Pennsylvania

    But UChicago is getting close to a 12.6 admit rate this year --but is doing it with only 25,000 applications and a 41% yield rate. So it is much more conceivable that UChicago can improve its admit rate and yield rate in the short term--relative to other top schools.

    (Of course, over the LONG run, perhaps all of the top schools will continue to show improvement in the decades to come.)
  • truth123truth123 Posts: 584Registered User Member
    P.S. That Yale yield figure I posted from NCES was for Fall 2010, not 2011. As @david05 noted, Yale's yield declined to 65.2% for Fall 2011. (For some reason NCES had updated figures for Fall 2011 for most schools but not Yale, and a few others.)
  • HllbllyninjajrHllbllyninjajr Posts: 19Registered User New Member
    Just seeing the amount of credibility that is growing even on CC i wouldn't be surprised to see a jump to 43% or perhaps 44% as phuriku stated
  • UChi2016EAUChi2016EA Posts: 40Registered User Junior Member
    Keep in mind UChicago is unrestrictive EA. If it were to institute SCEA or ED, yield rate would jump tremendously.
  • truth123truth123 Posts: 584Registered User Member
    I'm sure when the time is right they would consider it.... But so far I think they are doing an excellent job and should keep up the good work. Their goal, rightly, is to create the best possible admissions situation for the University. Whatever they are doing seems to be working so far.

    You know, some people have suggested that some of these increased applications are just junk or 'spam' applications, but the truth is if you look at the top feeder schools, you will see an increased interest in UChicago from coast-to-coast.
  • phurikuphuriku Posts: 2,763Registered User Senior Member
    Also, if they were just spam applications, Chicago's average SATs wouldn't have increased to be where they are now (i.e., greater than those of Columbia, Stanford, and MIT).
  • david05david05 Posts: 161Registered User Junior Member
    It is possible for UChicago to have a high yield since Princeton and Harvard reinstated their early programs this year. Northwestern experienced a huge yield increase from 30.9% to 33.4% then to 38.7% within two years (What a Class! : Northwestern University Newscenter). UChicago has the potential. 41~43% is no doubt, and above 43% is very possible.
  • phurikuphuriku Posts: 2,763Registered User Senior Member
    "Northwestern experienced a huge yield increase from 30.9% to 33.4% then to 38.7% within two years."

    Northwestern only did that by increasing their ED admits substantially (and hence, artificially increasing yield by forcing their admits to come). Otherwise, their yield probably would have decreased.

    Note that while NU's yield has been increasing, their average test scores have been going down. They're trying to stay at least a little competitive with their local rival in terms of admit rate, but in doing so, they're just hurting the quality of their student body. It's a perfect example of why Chicago should avoid ED like the plague.
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