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04-22-2008, 05:54 PM
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| People/companies can rank whatever they want to, it wouldn't affect my educational experience at any of the colleges..unless I want to..so, yea..I didn't even look at more than one list or posts...lawl. | 
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04-22-2008, 06:14 PM
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One ranking I thought was somewhat reflective of the true state of the colege world was Brian Leiter's University rankings. He was at the University of Texas at the time and was mostly known for his Law School Rankings. He goes to some length to explain the approach taken.
| Leiter is coming to UofC Law School. Also, he is not most known for his law school rankings; he is most known for his grad philosophy department rankings: http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/id...ker/?page=full ). Also his methodology is completely suspect, as it is based primarily in his understanding of "gestalt." | |
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04-22-2008, 09:34 PM
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| Wow! I think a lot less of UofC knowing that the school has hired Leiter. It will probably improve Chicago's ranking though. The schools with which he is associated do very well in his rankings. | |
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04-22-2008, 10:38 PM
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| The LS student community did not exactly seem enthused about his hire. However, just because he took on a major internet phenomenon and lost face with the 22-25 year old age bracket does not make him a poor professor objectively. He certainly adds something to the interdisciplinary graduate work being done across law and philosophy.
His college rankings though were completed long before he had any idea he would end up at UChicago either as a visitor or full time faculty member, so I think his choice of criteria is fair enough. Obviously, the perennially high stature of ChiLaw in his other rankings will no doubt be suspect in the future. | |
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04-22-2008, 11:14 PM
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| This is a typical CC thread.....very very typical. | |
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04-22-2008, 11:30 PM
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| wait why does everyone hate this dude. excuse the ignorance. | |
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04-23-2008, 12:58 AM
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Wow! I think a lot less of UofC knowing that the school has hired Leiter.
| Why? He is the most powerful person in philosophy today. He has singlehandedly made philosophy of mind more important and improved continental v. analytical philosophy. Analytical always seems like a bit of a circle jerk to me anyways. Wittgenstein is great and all, but I mean really, where do you end up? Quote: |
It will probably improve Chicago's ranking though.
| Yeah, but who will take Chicago's rise seriously? Nobody who is using Leiter's philosophy rankings to actually pick a grad school. | |
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04-23-2008, 10:25 AM
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| Leiter is arrogant and an elitist, even by law professor standards. To be fair, I've been told he's moderated some recently, so maybe he'll continue this trend at UC.
I can't comment on his position in philosophy, but I can tell you that his position on teaching primarily (or only) the philosophy of law at "elite" law school and basically expecting the graduates to just figure out things like codes, rules and procedure because they are smart is laughable in its absurdity to nearly anyone that actually practices law. If he wants to be a philosophy professor, that's fine, but don't criticize law schools for teaching students how to be a lawyer. | |
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04-23-2008, 10:53 AM
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| This is true. He is distaste for high caliber political science is oddly outlandish. | |
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04-24-2008, 02:12 AM
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| The THES-QES rankings have about as much credibility as P.T. Barnum does. | |
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04-24-2008, 05:20 PM
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| I don't think there is any coincidence that oxbridge came out as #2. Nothing but British propoganda. You can't take any survey that has Stanford/Berkeley/Columbia outside the top 10 as global research universities seriously. Also, how does Caltech trump MIT?? Rubbish | |
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04-24-2008, 08:31 PM
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Also, how does Caltech trump MIT??
| For undergraduate, Caltech clearly trumps MIT. For graduate, it's a close race, with MIT perhaps a bit out in front. By no means is it obvious. | |
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04-26-2008, 11:11 PM
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| these rankings are... weird | |
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04-27-2008, 05:56 PM
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| Five UK universities in the top nine? Don't think so. | |
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