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Preview - How Fast do classes go?

FunnellsFunnells Posts: 39Registered User Junior Member
edited March 2012 in University of Florida
So the Freshman Preview Dates went up for Summer B, and I know that we choose classes during orientations, but if I pick a late date, will all the classes be gone? I was hoping to register for MHF 3202 MAP 2302 (I checked they are offered for summer B, and I will have the qualifications to take it) since I need it for my major, but will it be gone :(?

Or will all the "previous" students (non-first years) have already filled up those classes? So should I take the first session(May 17-18, I'll have to miss two days of school, but I won't be missing AP Exams or anything that important) or the second to last session (June 5-6 after school is over).

Which one did you go to? and should I take the earliest date?

By the way, I live in South Florida, so driving distance is an issue(but my parents don't mind if it's going to make a difference with my classes), so if the classes I want are going to be filled up, then I'll have to go to the earliest date.

Also, for anyone that has taken the aforementioned classes are they hard(just your experience)? I'll have finished Calc BC by the time I got to UF so...

Thanks everyone!
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Replies to: Preview - How Fast do classes go?

  • bobbo07bobbo07 Posts: 270Registered User Junior Member
    How good was your HS? That seems like a crazy combo esp for a freshman but some kids go to pretty sick schools these days. If your AP class wasn't really that tough( a lot of them can't be because too many kids would fail for HS) then you'll prob want to retake whatever it was because UF math is on a different level

    However, if you do press on theres a nonzero chance I will be in these with you
  • FunnellsFunnells Posts: 39Registered User Junior Member
    My Calc BC class was pretty good, my HS decent. I'll definitely pass the BC exam with at least a 4. Even if it's on a different level, I'm very confident that I can do well, are those two classes really that crazy of a combo? Could you tell me about it?
  • telecom543telecom543 Posts: 73Registered User Junior Member
    They hold spots for 2000 level classes and open them up during each preview. I went last year to very last preview offered for the fall and got all but one class I wanted. I was able to get that one during the drop/add week as many spots opened up.
  • FunnellsFunnells Posts: 39Registered User Junior Member
    So does that mean I should just take the preview date most convenient for me? In this case it would be a late one. Actually doesn't that mean it would be better to take a late date? I mean, lets say they reserved 1-2 seats each preview session, if it gets to the last session, and more than 1-2 people want the class, and up until then those 1-2 seats from other sessions haven't been taken, wouldn't they just let the students in the late sessions take them(since they would probably want to fill up the class, but in earlier sessions they have to reserve those seats for later sessions)?

    Also does anyone know about entering a class late, like really late, like half way late? I'm talking about Calculus III, if i buy the text book, and learn the material really well, and offer to take the midterm or something like that, to prove I can handle the class, even though I'm entering late, and know the material up until then, and say I get an A on the midterm. Do you think anything more than teacher approval would be required?

    I really want to do this, seriously, please don't tell me "there's no hope" or "just give up"

    I guess what I'm really asking is how rigid is the policy in UF, particularly in CLAS? Are they bent on rules? or are they willing to make an accommodation under reasonable circumstances? If this makes a year difference in graduation, would you call me reasonable for asking? Does that qualify as a good reason for wanting to take Calc III over summer B.
  • aforautumnaforautumn Posts: 1,381Registered User Senior Member
    take the convenient registration date. those classes should be open during the summer.

    by why would you want to spend a bunch of time studying for a class when you're not taking it just to join it later on? how is that better than taking it from the start?

    and why would you want to graduate earlier than you already are?
  • telecom543telecom543 Posts: 73Registered User Junior Member
    You cannot join the class midterm. Second week after the drop/add week is the latest to join the class. You may want to attend first week of classes to see what they are all about and how much work is required and then decide to drop a class (or add a class) at the end of the week w/o any penalty. You can drop the class pretty late during the term in which case you would receive "W" (withdrew) in your transcript and no refund.
    Adding a class is difficult later but can be done with professors permission but usually only first few weeks after drop/add week.
    I would recommend taking reasonable course load first semester and see how you adjust as college level classes are usually much harder than same classes in HS.
  • datadata Posts: 206Registered User Junior Member
    Just letting you know that you may have a really really hard time registering for those classes in the summer for the following reasons:
    1) The staffers at preview are supposed to try and get you to take the normal freshman stuff
    2) You won't have your AP scores back yet, so you can't prove you have the prereqs (at least not for diffeq, you can probably get into sets without any pre-req)

    The first problem isn't so bad, because you can get into any class you're qualified for if you press the staffers to let you. The 2nd problem could be a roadblock though.

    My personal experience was that I took BC senior year, so when I got to my preview and didn't have my scores yet (even though I knew I got a 5) they were very hesitant to let me sign up for calc3 *in the fall*, much less the summer. What ended up happening was I got to sign up for it conditionally pending my AP scores, so if I scored less than 4 I would be removed.

    I recommend trying to make a conditional kind of deal like I did if you're hell bent on taking those classes. You will of course run upon a ton of resistance from the staff, so things to bring up if you have them when trying to prove you'll be fine in those classes are high HS math grades (especially in BC), high (preferably perfect) SAT math score, high SAT2 math score, and extracurricular math stuff you've done, like MAO.
  • FunnellsFunnells Posts: 39Registered User Junior Member
    Oh dear :D, I'll probably try a deal, I only got a 700 in SAT math, is that not good enough? I guess I'll take the SAT2 math. My math classes are straight As, but I was only in MAO one year, I'll be going to states in April, do you think if I won like 1st or 2nd place (assuming I could pull something so wonderful off) would that really turn the tables when trying to make some sort of deal?

    Thanks for all the responses everyone!! I never knew what a helpful place CC was!! :D
  • bobbo07bobbo07 Posts: 270Registered User Junior Member
    Are you doing engineering or math? A lot of engineering kids wind up taking extra time so you don't have to freak if you wind up "only" graduating in 3 years. What are you trying to do after undergrad so quickly
  • FunnellsFunnells Posts: 39Registered User Junior Member
    theres a nonzero chance I will be in these with you
    WHOAH! :D, That's cool, and creepy at the same time

    Math major, by the way. I want to push myself to the limits, see my potential

    And sometimes I feel like the people that talk about graduating quickly, they talk about it in a not-so-positive light like "what's the rush, why you want to do this so fast" like there's nothing better after college. Like they think "Oh, you get a job, life goes down there from then," they've been infected with the "these are the best years of your life" sentiment, and I really have to disagree, at the very least, I want to be different!

    I mean, if you were told after you finished eating you'd get a million dollars, wouldn't you chug down your food even though you know the million is still going to be there when you finish? (No, that's not what's happening to me :D)

    That's how I feel, like there's something so much better waiting.

    Your posts in particular haven't really said a lot about graduating quickly but, just for anyone thinking about those aforementioned thoughts I see plaguing "early graduate" threads"
  • bobbo07bobbo07 Posts: 270Registered User Junior Member
    oh also, I believe you have to get a C or better in a UF math class before you're allowed to take sets and logic but I have no idea how strict that is. I do not have that yet so I will see if it lets me get in there when my reg opens up tomorrow

    You should prob talk to a MATH advisor ASAP you don't want to try to run anything remotely unconventional(or really anything at all) by the regular CLAS advisors. But the math advisors will have probably seen people who get through the early math really fast before and will know the best strategy for grad school or w/e you want to do.
  • aforautumnaforautumn Posts: 1,381Registered User Senior Member
    its not about life going downhill after college.

    being a college student is a very unique experience with unique opportunities that you won't be able to recreate later in life. if you want to push yourself, learn more in 4 years. if you finish your math degree in 3 years, spend the 4th year doing comp sci or finance. it's worth it.

    graduating early should only be a consideration if you are either unable to adjust to the college social environment, or if you have a really great job offer or compelling and money-generating opportunity. neither of those things are something you can know that you'll have after 3 years before you even get here.
  • datadata Posts: 206Registered User Junior Member
    Funnells wrote:
    Oh dear , I'll probably try a deal, I only got a 700 in SAT math, is that not good enough? I guess I'll take the SAT2 math. My math classes are straight As, but I was only in MAO one year, I'll be going to states in April, do you think if I won like 1st or 2nd place (assuming I could pull something so wonderful off) would that really turn the tables when trying to make some sort of deal?

    Those things I listed were just what I mentioned to the adviser when he was doing the whole "calc3 is a very challenging course that we don't usually let incoming freshman sign up for" thing. It can't hurt to have them, but I don't know if they're really necessary (because usually advisers will give you just about anything you want if you press hard enough).

    By the way, I can totally understand wanting to be ambitious and take lots of classes related to your major early on, as I was the same way when I came into college. My only question is why rush MAP2302? I know Sets & Logic is a pre-req for a bunch of math classes but as far as I know the only classes that have diffeq as a pre-req also require linear algebra, which you won't have by the fall anyways. I think saving diffeq for the fall and getting something like your international or diversity credit out the way could be more beneficial than trying for both math classes in the summer (and won't affect when you can graduate). Plus, as someone who entered Summer B I can say that it was easily the most enjoyable semester of college I've had... so it can't hurt to have a little free time to do things other than class/study.
  • FunnellsFunnells Posts: 39Registered User Junior Member
    its not about life going downhill after college.
    that's what it usually sounds like :O, not necessarily your opinion
    being a college student is a very unique experience with unique opportunities
    Yes, but I think graduating early is also a very unique experience, with unique opportunities - for me, I really do believe this is the best choice.
    spend the 4th year doing comp sci or finance
    I might actually do this one, if I were interested in any other topics, to be honest, I like math, it's very intriguing and exciting, but not any other topics too much. I'm planning to get some electives with comp science and see how I like it, but I'm probably only going to get a math degree. Of course, if I find some incredible major when I get to college, that's even cooler than math, then I'll probably double in it.
    graduating early should only be a consideration if you are either unable to adjust to the college social environment, or if you have a really great job offer or compelling and money-generating opportunity. neither of those things are something you can know that you'll have after 3 years before you even get here.
    Actually I'm pretty sure it should be whenever I want, I get that you don't want me to make a "mistake" and graduate early, I'm sure with good intentions, but 4-years really isn't my thing.
    You should prob talk to a MATH advisor ASAP
    Thanks I'll do that tomorrow (if I get a chance)!
    because usually advisers will give you just about anything you want if you press hard enough
    Nice. This is very pleasing to the eyes. :D
    why rush MAP2302
    If I can get Calc III over the summer, I'll be qualified to take Linear Algebra, which according to their website, is a super important class, so I want to take it over the fall, a nice 16-week span.
    getting something like your international or diversity credit out the way
    If I took something like that online, wouldn't it probably be a lot easier than taking it the traditional method? Like throwing an extra online class? I've taken online classes in highschool, and online DEs, anyone that's done an online class in UF know if it'd be easy?
    as someone who entered Summer B I can say that it was easily the most enjoyable semester of college
    Are these three classes going to be that much of a burden? I heard that if you could do Calc II you could do Calc III definitely, and I plan to do pre-studying before the semester starts, to lighten the amount of studying I have to do in the actual classes, I'll have about a month after school ends to learn, shouldn't that be enough?

    Oh, yeah, Data, you ended up taking Calc III in the fall right? how was it?
  • aforautumnaforautumn Posts: 1,381Registered User Senior Member
    i just think its a bit premature to think 4 years of something is too much when you haven't even really experienced 4 minutes of it. also, what specific opportunities do you think graduating early gives you? curious.

    online classes at UF aren't really like online classes on high school. there are certain courses that are totally online and that are unusually easy, but the majority of 'online' classes are actually normal classes that just have online delivery. they aren't easier than normal classes, and they require the same amount of effort and work to do.

    for instance, most of the bigger business classes are online, but they all have a live lecture period 3-4 days a week which is recorded so that students can watch it at their leisure. you could go to the live lecture and it would be as if it wasn't even an online class.
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