Miami Admissions vs. UF

UF2013hopeful · 02-03-2009, 02:38 PM

Which one is more difficult to get into? If you receive a scholarship to UM is that a good indication that you will be accepted into UF? Anything else comparing them...

vincanity1 · 02-03-2009, 03:08 PM

UF is substantially more difficult to get into. Receiving a scholarship to UM is no indicator whatsoever in regards to your chances of admission at UF. Many people have been offered 75% scholarships from UM and Presidential Scholarships from FSU and been denied from UF.

Just to give an idea as to how nothing can indicate what your chances are at UF other than your scores, I have several friends who were admitted to schools including Dartmouth, NYU, and Boston College but were denied by UF.

Samuelson777 · 02-03-2009, 04:32 PM

Middle 50% of U of F

SAT Critical Reading: 560 - 670
SAT Math: 580 - 690
SAT Writing: - -
ACT Composite: 25 - 29

Middle 50% of U of Miami

SAT Critical Reading: 580 - 680
SAT Math: 610 - 700
SAT Writing: 580 - 670
ACT Composite: 27 - 31

Based on this, I would think that UMiami is harder to get into... that and the fact that they have a slightly lower acceptance rate. Also, a majority of the kids are from out of state, which mean a broader applicant pool making it more competitive.

Samuelson777 · 02-03-2009, 04:35 PM

oh, being a private school, miami gives out a ton of scholarships. They have to because the tuition is so high. Getting a scholarship from them is not a big deal.

SSobick · 02-03-2009, 05:48 PM

"Based on this, I would think that UMiami is harder to get into... that and the fact that they have a slightly lower acceptance rate. Also, a majority of the kids are from out of state, which mean a broader applicant pool making it more competitive. "

WRONG!

UF's admit rate was 36.9% whereas University of Miami had an admit rate of 38.6% for the last incoming class. But this year UF has stipulated that they will admit less than 1,000 student. It's quite possible that UF's admit rate will be sub-30%.

Also UF does Holistic Admissions, and this is the only reason why UF doesn't blow the doors off of Miami in terms of quality in our incoming class. I can guarantee that the regular admit is far better at UF in comparison to Miami.

qazwsx1! · 02-03-2009, 07:47 PM

Lets put it this way, UMiami has accepted 39/99 People that have applied from my high school, and only 1/13 has been admitted to Florida. The one person that was accepted into Florida had very high SAT scores and rougly a GPA of 3.9 unweighted.

I don't know if it differs this much from school to school, but I'd say it's harder to get into Florida

vincanity1 · 02-03-2009, 07:49 PM

Here come the UM trolls. I could almost hear them

hilsa · 02-03-2009, 07:53 PM

I didn't apply to either. But most of the people at my school get admitted to both colleges. Umiami and UF attract different types of people, though. Umiami is more science oriented so it attracts more math and science people, whereas UF is more everything in general oriented so it attracts more well-rounded students (though, these students may not be quite as strong in sciences and maths as those applying to UMiami).

vincanity1 · 02-03-2009, 08:03 PM

Arts students also tend towards UM

hilsa · 02-03-2009, 08:30 PM

That too. Just UF students tend to be more well rounded (and that comes with a certain demographic/personality type) compared to the subject-focused UMiami students (who also come with a certain demographic/personality type).

rockerguyasj · 02-03-2009, 09:35 PM

Also, the whole "Holistic Admission" excuse is pretty much crap. Almost all competitive universities practice "Holistic Admission", and consider factors outside of grades and test scores that might allow applicants that have lower than the average grades/test scores to be admitted, not just UF. It annoys me that everyone in this board laments about the evils of "Holistic Admission" when almost every elite/top universities practice it as well. It's not just UF.

hawaiiboy15 · 02-03-2009, 10:19 PM

Just look at the stats. Both are pretty selective, but maybe more higher caliber students apply to UM, post #3.

I'm not trying to knock UF, I don't go to UM, both are very selective and good schools.

MyOpinion · 02-04-2009, 12:35 AM

Middle 50% of U of F

SAT Critical Reading: 560 - 670
SAT Math: 580 - 690
SAT Writing: - -
ACT Composite: 25 - 29

Middle 50% of U of Miami

SAT Critical Reading: 580 - 680
SAT Math: 610 - 700
SAT Writing: 580 - 670
ACT Composite: 27 - 31

It would certainly indicate that higher caliber students apply to UM. UF 's yield has traditionally been always high. Since most state students would choose to go to a cheaper school, that yield is really no surprise to anyone.

seiclan · 02-04-2009, 08:26 AM

It does not have much to do with the caliper of student that applies to UF and UM. It has more to do with the demographics and socioeconomics. At UF you are more likely to find a broader range of student, with a broader range of SAT scores, EC's, and economic backgrounds. This is because it is a state school and is mandated to accept some sort of representation of the students in the state (the entire state). This often translates into kids with SAT's of 1200 getting admitted from "booney high" while kids with 1350+ SAT's from schools like Cypress High or Douglas High (Weston and Parkland, very affluent areas with high school senior classes of 800-1000 students) get rejected. UF cannot take EVERY smart student from these schools...since at least 400 of them apply each year!
UM on the other hand can and does take the cream of the crop THAT APPLY. UM is expensive. Most kids with the 1350+ SAT's from affluent areas did get into UM. UM accepts more of them because they have a lower yield (kids who will actually enroll once accepted).

I am not sure if I am being clear but the bottom line is that it is much easier to get into UM than UF IF YOUR GPA IS OVER 3.8 AND YOUR SAT IS OVER 1350. It is easier to choose UM over UF, if you can afford it.

SSobick · 02-04-2009, 08:35 AM

I find it funny that the "U" is diverting almost all resources to the Undergraduate Program. Meanwhile the UM Business and Law Schools are tanking in the overall rankings. Besides the Miller School of Medicine they do not have a single descent Graduate Program (BTW: UF Medicine is ranked higher, and is harder to be admitted to).

The only reason they shot up the rankings is because they had a very successful Capital Campaign a few years back. But the fact of the matter is that UF's latest Capital Campaign will be even more successful than what was ever seen at "The Sun Tan U".