@MLDWoody Haha I can understand that off the bat, but being heavily involved in athletics made it easy to write a great essay.
You always hear people stressing the importance of the essays, and I can see why. My best piece of advice to Ross hopefuls would be to get involved heavily in one club or organization and spend a large amount of time writing/rewriting the essays. Sure a bunch of A's in hard classes may look good to the adcom, but a sincere and well developed essay will make or break your chances. Oh and stray away from writing a generic "I want to be in finance because it's competitive and I'm a competitive person" essay. I wonder how many hundreds of essays the adcom reads with that theme. I know all of this has been said many times before, but students who apply continue to make these mistakes.
@matt321... Congrats
@MLDWoody...you are lucky in engineering where essays don't matter near as much...
I am class of 2013 from LSA Honors
GPA:3.9+
Econ 101,102 A,A+ English Honors A,A-
EC: Athletic (non varsity but competitive)
GPA: 3.9
RC Core 100.003 (equivalent to Eng 125): A
Econ 101: A
Math 115: A
Wrote essays about helping people start their own businesses in developing nations and how my blueLAB project has taught me the complexity that comes with doing social research from a distance
Involved with a blueLAB project doing social research, Navara Foundation, Best Buddies, and SHEI
I'm gonna be a junior in Ross this coming year, but here were my stats when I got it:
GPA: 3.3
English 125: B
Math 116: B+
Chem 125/126: C+
Econ 101: A-
Here are few things I would take into consideration:
1.It’s great that you like EE and FM. But both of them are one of the hardest majors in their respective colleges (EE for engineering and Financial Math for LSA). If you do take both majors, you have to realize you won’t have much time to do anything else.
2.EE is not by itself at Michigan. It comes with CS and the major is EECS. This could be a good thing or a bad thing. If you are good at programming and it comes natural to you, then great. If not, then the major will be tough.
3.For investment banking, a 3.5+ GPA is a must. Not saying it’s impossible, but hard is an understatement. For all engineers, the average first year GPA is a 2.9. And with Financial Math double major, it won’t get any easier. That being said, if you do it, you will get amazing recruitment (maybe even to some quant. hedge funds if you’re into that).
4.EECS with econ will be easier, but still hard. Again, remember that a 3.5+ is what you need to aim for. Since you want to get into banking, I would recommend sticking with either Financial Math or Engineering (not both), then applying to Ross. While LSA and Engineering gets recruitment (especially with networking and high GPA), Ross gets much more recruitment for banking than LSA or Engineering so your best shot will be through Ross. Otherwise, if you want to stick with Engineering (or FM) or like engineering more than Business, then stick with that and network your way into banking.
Pretty much what I’m saying is that EE and FM double major will be extremely hard and keeping the GPA at a 3.5+ can potentially be difficult. Just some points to consider.
Makes absolutely no sense to do EECS (or any type of engineering for that matter) or financial math if you already know you want IBD.
Even the most complex stuff on the private side (like structuring risk products from private clients, an example would be RSG under BarCap IBD) are simple and vanilla.
EE is not by itself at Michigan. It comes with CS and the major is EECS...If you are good at programming and it comes natural to you, then great. If not, then the major will be tough.
Huh? You do realize that you can choose the EE track instead of the CE track, don't you? How many programming courses do you think are required for the EE track?
I could be wrong, but I've always seen the major called EECS (Electrical Engineering and Computer Science). I know in some places like Illinios it's lumped into ECE (Electrical and Computer Engineering). I'm not completely familiar with the upper track of EECS at Michigan, but my guess is that even if there is an emphasis of EE, there will still be a fair share of CS classes that need to be taken.
For the OP, the point isn't how many just that CS takes a certain mindset which could be good or not depending on the individual.
there will still be a fair share of CS classes that need to be taken.
1. Program Core Courses: All of the following courses are required (29 credits total):
a. Electrical Engineering Core: EECS 215 (Intro. to Electronic Circuits), EECS 216 (Intro. to Signals and
Systems), EECS 280 (Data Structures & Algorithms), EECS 230 (Electromagnetics I), EECS 320
(Intro. to Semiconductor Devices)
b. Probabilistic Methods: EECS 401
c. Technical Communications: TCHNCLCM 300 (1 credit)
d. Engineering professionalism: EECS 496 (2 credits)
e. Writing and oral presentation: TCHNCLCM 496 (2 credits)
2. Technical Electives: A minimum of 33 additional credits of technical electives are required:
a. Core Electives: 8 credits from two or more categories:
i. Signals & Systems: EECS 353*, EECS 451, EECS 455, EECS 460
ii. Circuits: EECS 311, EECS 312
iii. Electromagnetics / Optics: EECS 330, EECS 334
iv. Computers: EECS 270, EECS 370
EECS 270 - Intro to Logic Design
EECS 370 - Intro to Computer Organization (Basic concepts of computer organization and hardware.)
There is a lot of programming in EECS 370, to be fair. Though again, EEs don't have to take it. EECS 270 has some programming in the lab, but that's not the focus of the class.
A lot of EECS students go work for banks in technical roles, frequently programming related. Investment banking is less prominent, but I'm not sure how prominent.
