I have been admitted to CIT in all depts other than ECE(I am waitlisted).I also have admission to UMICH engg. CIT has a lower ranking than UMICH in all depts other than ECE.What do i do?Where are my career prospects better?
When you say CIT, do you mean Caltech? If so, I would say that even if Michigan is ranked higher in individual departments, Caltech, like MIT, is slightly better then Michigan...and quality of life at Michigan is better than it is at Caltech. If you are Caltech calibre, chances are you will manage to maintain a very high GPA at Michigan. If that's the case, your job prospects are practically as good at Michigan as they are at Caltech. A 3.7+ GPA from Michigan will pretty much get you into any company and/or graduate school.
i was in a similar situation 3 years ago. I chose Umich even though all my friends told me to goto CMU. I saved some money coming to Umich tho, so i guess its not too bad. But, I think u get more personal educational attention at CMU and you will have better job prospects. The Umich engineering career center is pretty useless, and there are just too many students for them to care about each person. and umich engineering has a lot of slackers, its just the culture here. there is a lot of people who just want to get by with minimum amount of work.
when u get in project based classes (in my major, we have 5 project based classes), u will hate half of your team members. I've only had 1 good team, and have had many horrible ones.
I think CMU would be different, because it has the reputation of being a difficult and very academically focused school, so people enrolling there will be people who want to work hard at school.
My daughter is trying to decide between Michigan and CMU, and she says all her friends are telling her to go to Michigan. (for sciences, not engineering) NYao, you are very misinformed. All colleges have slackers, seriously minded people, and everything inbetween.
Both are excellent schools in their own ways. I am sorry to read that you've had such bad experiences with group projects. Every time 5 people work on something, there will usually be some conflicts. That happens everywhere.
Academically and reputationally, CMU and Michigan are equal when it comes to Electrical and Computer Engineering. In terms of job placement, they are also both excellent. I would really visit both schools and decide based on which environment you prefer. One of my best friends did his undergrad at Michigan and his MBA at CMU. He enjoyed both his experiences. He felt that CMU had a prettier and neater campus but he felt Michigan's campus was more impressive and more lively. There is no doubt that Michigan offers a more well-rounded college atmosphere, but CMU is excellent too.
You know what the difference between people on CC and the old PR is? people on CC say things like "you are misinformed", and then say "I'm sorry that you had a bad time, and hope the best for you"(paraphrasing). You guys always exhibit this kind of fake sincerety. I don't mind if you state your opinions, but do it consistently, i'm not gonna cry over your comments. Arguing on the internet is like competing in the special olympics.(nothing against retarded people)
I was in a similar situation, like i said, I am more qualified than you, or any other person on this forum to give my own opinions to the OP, because like the OP i was accepted to both places, almost the same major at both.
There are slackers everywhere, that is in a relative sense. Certain college attracts certain kinds of people. CMU attracts a lot of hard working people who want to learn, do well in school. While engineering students at Michigan might have the same IQ, same high school gpa, I've found out that a lot of them just stopped caring,thats why they came to michigan, they are in it for the party, they got to Michigan, and they wanted to chill. While all that is fine for themselves, it places other students, who want to learn, get good grades, in a ****ty situation in groups. You never went to Michigan Engineering, you are qualified to merely state your opinion, u have no first hand experience or knowledge, enough to call me misinformed.
i don't know anything about the sapphire program, but Michigan is better than Penn State. I have a friend at Penn State, seems like getting good grades is a lot easier over there.
Really? I stumbled upon this website a couple of months ago, and I have posted only about 10 times, and you think you know me already.
I am not even sure what PR is. And what is wrong with "you are misinformed"? Would "you are a dumb @ss" have been more to your liking? LOL
Look, I don't know why you are so bitter about Umch, and it's not my business. I responded to you because I actually found your posts refreshing, a bit entertaining (sorry about that). A lone dissenting voice where everyone else is trying to paint a rosy picture of U Michigan.
Call it fake sincerity if you will. It does not matter. I guess if you are old you are a hypocrite; if you are young you are naive, right?
Michigan is a large school, and it's a public institution. There is no doubt that one will encounter many unmotivated students there.
But it's not so different elsewhere. It reminds me of a conversation I had with a young Japanese co-worker of mine, who did her PhD at Cornell. She said, when she was doing TA, she was amazed how so many students were so sloppy, apathetic, and "dumb". She asked me if it's because Cornell is a "lower" ivy like they say. (She chose Cornell over MIT, Stanford, etc) What do you think?
I hope you see my point.
i "stumbled" upon this website 4-5 years ago, posted under a different name. Was there during the golden era of the Princeton Review discussion board,(about 5 years ago) Should I be impressed that your co-worker chose Cornell over MIT/Stanford?
NYao, I think the point nefer was trying to make is that you will find irresponsible students that have partying as their #1 priority in almost every major university. Obviously, schools like BYU, Caltech, CMU, Chicago, Columbia, Johns Hopkins and MIT will probably attract fewer such students than schools like Brown, Cornell, Dartmouth, Duke, Michigan, Penn and Stanford...but then again, the former aren't exactly known for having pleasant undergraduate environments. I personally attended Cornell for graduate school and several of my close friends attended schools like Stanford, MIT, Penn, Duke, Northwestern etc... So I know Cornell well and I also know other elite universities reasonably. I can tell you that Cornell is identical to Michigan in every way. Similar calibre students, similar commitment to education (and partying), similar resources and endowment per student, similar professional and graduate school placement, similar peer assessment score etc... The same goes for Northwestern and Penn.
Not at all, sour grapes. I wouldn't try to impress anyone with a co-worker's credentials. My own credentials are a bit less "prestigious" than that, so I don't dare try to impress a rising star like you with it.
As for you, if you do well at Michigan, you will go far.
Folks - lets get real - no one is going to get a quality engineering education at Michigan, CMU, Penn State or anywhere else without putting in a lot of hard work, irrespective of what a school's party reputation may be. Some schools may further particular interests better, but the student has to be first and foremost the keen judge of that.
