rjkofnovi

Hey midwestmom2kids, i suggest you post that garbage on tOSU discussion board in CC top universities forum. Oh wait a second, tOSU isn't even listed there. This isn't football dear, we're talking about real "academic" institutions of reknown.

ruca

I like your line of reasoning. At Michigan, you'll be surrounded by tons of really smart Ivy-caliber kids *allowing with* everybody else!

*Brahmin

Sorry if I am going out of the topic...but I've heard that michigan is very expensive for international students...is that true? Can someone tell me how much EXACTLY it costs. Because I hear people saying it costs about 61k but i keep checking and it says around 42k. I think in the financial statement, it says 61k for a 12 month study, but dats not what ppl usually take right?

polydentate

^8 months of study is what most people choose. Then it works out to around $41,000 a year.

Alexandre

Brahmin, Michigan costs $43,000-$47,000/year, all included (tuition, room, board, books, insurance, transportation, entertainment etc...). Most elite universities cost anywhere from $50,000-$55,000/year, so Michigan is slightly cheaper.

*Brahmin

Michigan is well known for its solidity in every program...so does anyone know if a major of MechE is possible with a minor in Aerospace engineering and a minor in management...or something with that combo...

Also I know friend rejecting umich for its size...How big of a problem is its enormous student body...plus if ur doing mechE, shouldn't u be more concerned of the ppl doing that major.

Alexandre

You want to Major in Mechanical Engineering, minor in Aerospace Engineering and Business? First of all, I am not sure that Michigan offers minors in Aerospace Engineering or Business. You can only major in those two fields. Double majoring in Aerospace and Mechanical is manageable, albeit tough, since they are both part of the same college and share quite a bit in common. Double majoring in Mechanical Engineering and Business is possible, but challenging.

Michigan Engineering | Undergraduate Degree Options

Your friend who turned down Michigan for its size may have done so for the right reason...or the wrong reason. Michigan is indeed large, but, thanks to the size of its faculty, endowment, resources and campus, it is more than capable of handling its size. If your friend was looking for an intimate environment, where the college would halt all just to cater to his needs, then Michigan would not be the place. But in that respect, Michigan is no different from any major university with more than 5,000 undergrads and/or a large graduate school. Whether it is a student at Chicago, Columbia, Cornell, Harvard, MIT, Michigan, Penn or Stanford, the university will be too large and too busy taking care of their research and graduate students to attend to the needs of their undergrads. Undergrads at those universities must learn to take care of themselves. But if undergrads at those universities make an effort, they will be well looked after. So if your friend turned down Michigan for a LAC or a small university where research and graduate programs are insignificant, like Brown, Dartmouth, Rice etc..., because he wanted a smaller university and more personalized attention, then he made the right decision. However, if he turned down Michigan to attend a smaller school that is just as involved in research and has as large a ratio a graduate students as Michigan, he will sadly discover than he still wont find what he was looking for. Furthermore, it is important to rememeber that although Michigan is large, the college of Engineering is not that large. The CoE has 5,000 undergrads and 2,000 graduate students. that's roughly the same size as the CoE at other, smaller universites like Carnegie Mellon, Georgia Tech and MIT.

GoBlue81

Michigan Engineering | Undergraduate Degree Options

1) Dual Baccalaureate Degree Opportunities:
"Students with interest in more than one program offered by the College may work for additional bachelor's degrees concurrently if they plan the course elections carefully..."

2) Simultaneous Bachelor's Degrees from the College of Engineering and the Ross School of Business Administration:
"Students originally enrolled in an undergraduate degree program in the College of Engineering who are admitted to the Ross School of Business Administration may obtain degrees in both simultaneously by enrolling in the Multiple Dependent Degree Program (MDDP) that has been established between the two..."

Note that it may take you an extra year to do the above dual-degree programs. A more feasible route may be to do a minor in:
Michigan Engineering | Minors

3) Multidisciplinary Minor:
"This minor will allow undergraduate engineering students to obtain practical hands-on experience designing, building, and testing technology systems in collaboration with students from other disciplines both inside and outside of engineering..."

4) Entrepreneurship Certificate (proposed)
"Undergraduate and masters engineering students will be able to study business methods associated with writing business plans, obtaining venture capital and other funding, intellectual property, etc...
"Status: Still to be voted on by the College of Engineering Curriculum Committee and Faculty. Earliest possible start date is Fall Term 2008..."

For the more ambitious students, you may be interested in this:
5) The Engineering Global Leadership (EGL) Honors Program -
"EGL combines a traditional engineering undergraduate curriculum with a core of courses in the Ross School of Business and a cultural core in the College of Literature, Arts and Sciences. During the five-year program, EGL Honors students earn both a Bachelor's and Master's degree in Engineering..."

*Brahmin

Thanks for the great reply about its size Alexandre