fabrizio

jxu613,

What is the Black perspective on Turkish verb conjugation?

What is the Hispanic viewpoint on the first-derivative test for local extrema?

What is the Asian opinion on the policies of Chen Shuibian?

Are minorities hive-minds? Must they bring a "wide pool of ideas and opinions" only on basis of their skin colors?

To me, it's very insulting to suggest that a student is unique because he is not White. His race does not make him unique. His interests, self-image, goals, and career plans make him unique; no one else has those. By contrast, lots of others are part of his racial group.

While the proponents of racial preferences claim that their favored policy results in "inclusion" and "diversity," they curiously refuse to acknowledge that each individual is unique by definition. Whenever a college admits a student, it is admitting a unique student with a unique perspective.

Race is a factor irrelevant to participation in a university. As such, it should not be considered in admissions.

I hope that the Supreme Court will definitively decide against the use of racial preferences. With Justices Roberts, Scalia, Thomas, Kennedy, and Alito, this is a real possibility.

Non-Chalant1

Fabrizio I think you missed the point. Different races of people from different locations bring a diversity of opinions. Not necessarily a particular race will bring one opinion.....regardless of location....that's impossible.

fabrizio

Non-Chalant1,

You originally wrote "Different races of people from different locations bring a diversity of opinions."

I agree with this, but not because of the race part. I agree because these are different people we are talking about.

To me, "different people from different locations bring a diversity of opinions," regardless of race.

Non-Chalant1

I understand where you are coming from fabrizio, but I have grown up in Providence, RI. More or less in the inner-city, but not in "the ghetto" and I have seen poor kids of all races. We all have similar experiences, but at the same time different outlooks because our backgrounds and cultures.

kennyk616

is it ok to judge people and decide their fate on something GOd picked for them, or should we focus on what "they" chose and did?

e.g. no one chose to be white or asian; as a matter of fact, I hav emany reasons for people to want to be black or native american

e.g. earning good grades and active in community service is what the individual "chose to do", not his skin color...

beprepn

One of the current ironies of the "system" is that males get preference at most elite institutions in order to maintain gender balance. I suppose this primarily means white men...

kennyk616

i thought female get preference to maintain gender balance...
or is that just math/science/engineering?

Maosorio

I also thought females had preference. Do they? Diversity. Yes every individual is unique, there is no doubt about. However, our diversity is formed by the individuals we are, by what we choose to do with our futures, and also by where we come from, which without doubt involves our cultural backgrounds. Race does define who we are, but not because we have a particular skin color or genetic inheritance, but because it distinguishes a particular culture. Without doubt, a person from China will posses completely different ideas from an American because of their cultural backgrounds. Therefore, racial diversity is a way to increment diversity.

kennyk616

so screw the people who unfortunately are born w/ yellow and white skin who get rejected.

Non-Chalant1

Kenny your making a horrible argument.....it seems like you didn't even read the article.

jxu613

Most of you are crediting race too much as a factor in admissions. It helps in a sense; however, is does not deny or guarantee admission by any means.

Ultimately, universities and colleges look for well-rounded students, specifically those who show they can multi-task, being involved in various extra curricular activities while maintaining a good GPA.

Secondary schools look to admit students who will succeed at their institutions. Colleges and universities look to prepare us for the successful future, which is full of tasks. As such, those who show the aforementioned criteria are more likely to gain admission, regardless of race.

Are there exceptions? Certainly, especially with the holistic system in place. Due to this system, human error/bias is eminent. Sometimes these errors occur with noticeable idiosyncrasies, such as race.

These cases marred with unique discrepancies such as race, athleticism, and so forth, stand out from the rest of the admissions due to their uniqueness among other admissions. It is important to realize, however, that these admissions are the minority of admissions among a majority of admissions fueled by students who are involved, take a rigorous course load, perform well on standardized tests, and do well in high school.

While I admit that there are certain problems with affirmative action and other race-based programs, and the college admissions as a whole, one has to admit that college admissions is fair as a whole.

Furthermore, you cannot lambaste this schools for attempting to diversify their student bodies. No program is perfect by any means, nor should any program be perfect, but the schools are nonetheless working to further the environmental facet of education.

As a whole, I am ambivalent in many ways of the matter of usage of race in determining admissions, but am nonetheless slightly leaning towards advocation of the matter, seeing it as just a step to a better program, diversifying schools and society as a whole.

kennyk616

Non-Chalant1, you're making a terrible response. I wasn't referring to the article, but someone's post.


besides, all your posts say "that wrong, that's horrible..etc"
you were NEVER able to come up with any argument or logic to back up your opinions.

what's the use when you go up to someone and say it's wrong w/o explaining or backing up with any logic which obviously from your previous posts on CC don't?

kennyk616

btw, I do agree with jxu613

Non-Chalant1

Kenny all my posts say that's wrong? Really please find them and tell me that's all I've ever said. Honestly, I sit and watch more than I ever post on here because a lot of things I'm not as knowledgeable on.

Also show me the post you were responding to. On a messageboard you have to attempt to interpret someone's tone......and I simply thought that you were being saracstic saying....."so screw the people who unfortunately are born w/ yellow and white skin who get rejected" as trying to make some sort of a point. I thought the point fell short....relax partner. How in the world can you disagree with me and agree with jxu613.......look back in the past and he's saying what I have always said...or agreed with.

I don't even know who you are and I have posted on here for myself and my friend who wanted to go to Georgetown and have never seen you......so how you came to the conclusion my posts lack logic is amazing. Do I have a secret admirer? The only person lacking logic here and blowing things out of proportion is you.

kennyk616

1. you dont give reasons on your opinions, u dont back it up as I have mentioned. that's what I've been trying to say, Jxu gave strong support and his reasoning makes sense.

2. my post was sarcastic to people who thinks race=a certain set background and experience that exactly has to do w/ his opportunities or social-economic status