JohnDoe123

What about super honors, as in Math 295? I'm going to the CoE next fall, and I can't decide which sequence I want to take. The other one I was thinking about was Math 156 (Calc II w/ application), because it seems like it might be more beneficial to an engineer, whereas Math 295 seems like it might be more for a person interested in becoming a mathematician.

redhare317

Most engineers I know take the basic sequence or the applied honors sequence. The basic sequence is actually more applied than applied honors. The theoretical sequence is generally for math majors, but there really is no wrong way to do your math studies.

dilksy

I'd only do the 295-396 sequence if you really like math, have already finished calc I/II, and are smart enough to pick up calc III/differential equations on your own. Very few engineers take that route (the only one I know who did was double majoring in math and EECS).

tetrahedr0n

Not true. There's been plenty. Some of them are even profs in the CoE now.

There's no such thing as math beneficial to an engineer. Whatever math you need in engineering, you'll learn in your engineering classes. If you take one single differential equations class, you're all set. You really don't require anything else. You'll also relearn all the diff eq you need during your class.

If you're interested, try it. If you don't like it in the first couple of weeks, drop and add the other class. I'm an EECS major who took 295 and 296.

tetrahedr0n

It's quite doable. The number of people with a 3.7+ is in the hundreds for each single class, and in total is very large. There's a lot of people at the University, and 20-30% of the people get an A in pretty much every single class, so someone is getting As.

im_blue

For the College of LSA, the cutoff GPAs for honors in 2007 were:
Top 25% = 3.649
Top 10% = 3.821
Top 3% = 3.930

College of Literature, Science, and the Arts

Based on these cutoffs, I would say about 20% of the class has a 3.7+ GPA, which is difficult but hardly impossible.

CCRunner123

Those statistics are meaningless, unless they take into account major. There's a huge disparity in the difficulty of classes here. Some classes you can do nothing all semester and get an A, other classes you work your ass off for a B.

Cvjn

I put in maybe 20 hours the entire semester for an Asian studies class; got an A- because I misspelled words.

I put in 20 hours for Orgo? I fail. Simple as that. Stats are misleading.

dilksy

"Not true. There's been plenty. Some of them are even profs in the CoE now."

Hasn't there only been one (Zeke) in the past 5 or so years that went all the way through to 396?

bearcats

"For the College of LSA, the cutoff GPAs for honors in 2007 were:
Top 25% = 3.649
Top 10% = 3.821
Top 3% = 3.930

College of Literature, Science, and the Arts

For Engineering
Top 25% = 3.25+
Top 10% = 3.5+
top 3% = 3.75 +
and that is in a much more self-selective group with generally better high school stats.
So it really depends which school you are in

JohnDoe123

Where did you get those stats? Is it just an estimate?

bearcats

COE advising center website and leaflet

blissful

What are the grades comprised of? Are they solely based on exams??

mellohappy

It depends on the class...some classes (like Math 115 and 116) are based almost exclusively on exams. Others (like Engin 101, Chem 130, Physics) have project and homework grades making up a part of your grade as well.

dsmo

Engineering is ridiculous. I transfered in to EE this semester, it is a ton of work. I had to take EECS 280 this semester....toughest class I have ever taken by a factor of like five. (To note, I did absolutely nothing in Engin 101 and got an A.) Just hoping that I passed...extremely happy that it is the last computer programming I will ever have to do. I'll take crunching numbers any day.

My GPA is going to take a major hit this semester. Very pleased to see those Engineering GPA breakdowns....I have been very disappointed with my results here, but apparently I am almost in the top 10%.