liberate

I don't know how many times I have to post this, but Michigan DOES look at the full picture! I got in with a 3.1 GPA. No, not Kinesiology. No, I'm not in-state. No, I'm not an athlete. It DOES happen. Michigan is looking for a very well-rounded student body.

psp-fifa-fan

^liberate: would you mind to post your accepted stat? thanks

liberate

It's not relevant to this thread. I'm part of the class of 2012.

jilldmd

what made you special, and so well rounded? not trying to be rude, or cute. Just wondering what your ECs were?

ProudWolverine

Alexandre, Michigan is not that selective to begin with, so I wouldn't find it hard to believe if many applicants with mediocre GPA and test scores were accepted as long as there's still space available. The key to applying is to simply apply early. Compared to the other top universities, Michigan is probably the least selective institution. That's why Michigan should drop its rolling admissions policy and consider adopting the common application process.

liberate

jilldmd, no offence taken. But, I'm not going to make this thread about myself. Feel free to search my posts if you would like.

I completely disagree with ProudWolverine. As with any school, there are anomalies in the acceptances; that doesn't make the school easy to get into.

sospiro

liberate, I searched and that is a pretty impressive hook.

Alexandre

ProudWolverine, Michigan is not that selective, but it is consistant. Unless a student can build a very convincing case, a sub 3.5 GPA won't get you into LSA or Engineering.

amer2384

Accepted

SAT: 1810
ACT: 30
Extra Cirr: Student Body VP, Team Captain of Basketball Team
Volunteer Hours: 250
Awards: Student of the Month for State of Texas
State: Texas
Ethnicity: Middle Eastern
Gender: Male
Essays: About the novel into the wild

ramennoodles08

Alexandre? consistent, are you serious? maybe when talking about sub par 3.5 GPA vs 4.0 GPAs but I have a friend with a 31 ACT and 3.9 GPA(in a tough schedule including 7 APs total) Two sport athlete and president of a club that got rejected from UMich while another got accepted with a 26 ACT and a 4.0 GPA(that only took 2 AP classes) that was a Student Gov rep but other then that not very impressive EC's, and I could name about 10 other examples of deserving students who got mooched on by other kids with far lesser stats, I would say Michigan is consistent up to a point, but as soon as they get up to the 28+ ACT and 3.8 GPA+ range UMich is not consistent at ALL, although I would say my high school isn't a fair judge of consistency for UMich admissions considering many parents of my friends in my high school class had connections to UMich admissions officers or donated massive amounts of money to UMich(i.e. one of my fellow classmates grandpa was COO or CFO of whirlpool one of the top 10 donors at Michigan and got their grandson(my classmate) in with a 20 ACT and a 2.8 GPA(unbelievable), and probably 7 or 8 other instances of this case) so connections definitely could have played a factor in the "lesser" students mooching in over the more deserving students, its possible that Alexandre is right and UMich is consistent but for my high school class I can tell you it was not consistent at all

rodney

thanks ramen...I couldn't have said it better myself.....hopefully this year will not be as inconsistent.....good luck to all...

Alexandre

ramennoodles, no admissions office is predictible. I was not referring to Michigan chosing some students over others based on perception. I am suremany 4.0 students with 26 ACT scores are chosen over 3.9 students with excellent SAT/ACT scores. That wsas the case, even when Michigan used its formula. Do you know that a 4.0 student with a 1250/28 on the SAT/ACT would get more points in Michigan's old admissions formula than a 3.9 student with a 1600/36 SAT/ACT? Now Michigan obviously no longer uses that formula, but the University has never valued standardized testing. Michigan always relies more on GPA and class rank. That explains why close to 95% of Michigan's latest class graduated in the top 10% of their class and the mean unweighed GPA for this year's Freshman class was over 3.8. Michigan does not really care about standardized test scores, which explains why the mean SAT/ACT score of Michigan freshmen was roughly 1330/29 instead of 1400/30. That does not mean that a student with a 1000/22 on the SAT/ACT will get in, but a student with an excellent academic record could get into Michigan with a 25-27 on the ACT or a 1200-1300 on the SAT.

But I was not referring to the above. I was referring to a more basic concept. Generally speaking, a sub 3.5 student does not get into LSA or Engineering. There are exceptions of course (applicants from elite private high schools, students with exception gifts, applicants with a unique and extremely rare background etc...), but it is very rare.

keefer

We didn't talk about high school grades a lot, but yea I don't recall knowing anyone who I had the discussion with, who had sub-3.5 GPA. I'm 100% positive that they do look at the full picture, and not just a "numbers" school, but it's pretty rare to get in with a 3.1, I'm sure it happens, but from what I've seen they'll tolerate a lower SAT/ACT, but usually not lower grades like that. but whatever, he/she got in, must have had something they liked.

ramennoodles08

Alexandre I agree with you, and I suggest you read my full post.


However, I just don't see how you could justify how someone with a 26 ACT and a 4.0 GPA in a weaker schedule with far fewer AP's is better than someone with a 31 ACT and a 3.9 GPA.

rodney

^also not sure how anyone justifies a 3.8 GPA with a 15-20% class rank over a student with a 3.7 GPA with a 5% class rank....even if they don't care about standardized tests....

I honestly think that it all comes down to that one number (UM GPA) unless there's a hook or a really good story......

Never mind the fact that last year, students with less rigorous schedules but higher UM GPA's were more successful....