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Old 11-03-2009, 03:33 PM   #1
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Internships

How important are internships in a grand scheme throughout college?

I have the opportunity to partake in an internship with College Works Painting, would any here recommend I take the opportunity without thinking twice? What benefits/drawbacks are there to an internship like it after your Freshman year (when I'll be doing it)?

I'm generally trying to get a grasp of how important this internship could be for me and how good it is in comparison to others, and also if I should wait out for the chance at a better one or not?
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Old 11-03-2009, 10:34 PM   #2
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I've hear mixed reviews on the college painting gigs. Try searching Google for some opposing viewpoints.

What is your major? What do you want to do after college? How will this help you accomplish that goal?
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Old 11-03-2009, 11:54 PM   #3
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what's your career goal?
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Old 11-04-2009, 06:45 PM   #4
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Ultimately I intend on going to law school. It has been an focal point of mine that in attaining an education you must be both smart and knowledgeable, but also well rounded.

I feel like an opportunity for any good internship will help formulate the package of myself I hope to represent, a well rounded, smart, flexible individual.

I currently plan on entering the Business School.
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Old 11-13-2009, 02:06 AM   #5
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Hey guys, CWP is a scam. It's technically not illegal, but it is set up kind of like a pyramid scheme. They attract young students that are not qualified enough to do an internship with a big name by making you feel special. I met with a guy today about it. Besides the fact that he was illegally recruiting me in a campus cafe at UT, he acted like a snake, he was not professional at all, and googling it told me all I need to know. Technically you could make money, but chances are you will probably lose a lot of money and time. If you want to make yourself look better, try to find an internship with a real company that doesn't just pass around clipboards in classes or just get a summer job as a waiter, there's nothing wrong with that.
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Old 11-13-2009, 02:11 AM   #6
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This was the best description I found while researching today, right before I called the guy and told him he was full of it
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Students beware - this is a seriously bad business venture for most. I operated a franchise in south western Ontario about eight years ago, and I personally lost $10 000 of my money (borrowed off of a student line of credit) to this horrible franchise "opportunity". They start off by selecting you because of your 'vast potential,' and you are pressured to sign a 40 page contract laced with legal jargon on the spot, or else you will lose out on this 'valuable opportunity' to the next eager student waiting for their chance - I was told I wasn't even allowed to go over the contract with my parents, for fear of leaking valuable information (I was 19 - an adult, yes, but still pretty naieve). Then there's the "training." You absolutely cannot learn how to properly quote and perform truly professional painting jobs (both interior and exterior, diagnosis, prep, and all), plus all the other nuances of running a business for the 1st time in a 3-day training seminar. I was promised that I would be accompanied for my first three estimates - and believe me, I was good at cold calling, so I found the jobs fast - but my regional supervisor canceled out of meeting me for every single one, stating that I was one of the "best" in the training seminar, so he wasn't worried about me. I lined up a summer full of contracts that were completely undervalued thanks to my stellar "training," and was sunk before I even began. We started work, but every job ran short on money - Student Works Painting takes their 30% cut off of the top of every job, regardless of whether or not you run short, then the paint store was paid, then the workers (they control all payroll activity, too) and then you, the franchisee. The workers are paid by piece-work, so of course they start to quit when the pay gets too low. When I realized about a month in that I was tanking fast, I met with my manager in tears, and told him I wanted to close the franchise because, just going into 2nd year university, I could not afford to lose any more money. He threatened me with a $30,000 law suit if I backed out, because of a stipulation in the contract that I signed that I would be personally responsible for the losses that Student Works Painting Corp. would incur by not having a franchisee in my area. Interestingly enough, he failed to provide me with a copy of my contract, despite multiple verbal and written requests on my part (and that little old thing they call the "law"), and he successfully ducked me for the rest of the summer. Still fearing legal recourse because I had no copy of what I signed, I opted to finish completing the contracts that I had lined up - without searching for new ones - despite knowing that I would be losing money, and I began paying my workers out of pocket just to keep them with me in order to complete the work. This was because in several jobs, after Student Works got their cut, and the paint was mostly paid for, there was nothing left even for my workers (in one case, I paid for some paint out of pocket, too). Then there was the fact that my regional supervisor was also running his own painting business, and would take all of the big contracts from us franchisees - a furniture store, a restaurant/bar, a college - as a FAVOUR to us, because we simply were "not equipped to handle them." Overall, this was a miserable experience - I am approaching 30, and I still have not come close to paying off what I lost from this venture - I was unable to attend law school because of it, despite maintaining a straight A average as an economics major. You simply cannot learn all there is to being a professional painter using the "coles notes guide to painting." I am sure they will try to paint me as an idiot, but believe me, I am far from, and this nightmare could happen to anyone. If you have already committed to them, GET A COPY OF YOUR CONTRACT - they will try to argue this due to "valuable" trade secrets, but it is your right by law - and be very careful; you will be pressured to line up as many jobs as you can, as quickly as you can, and you will be inundated with corporate propaganda newsletters to tell you how much money all the other franchisees are making (in our newsletters, it was always the same 4 people for all of Ontario, and they were all in the GTA). Do not let this affect your estimates, or you will pay in the end. Franchisee beware - I wish you the best of luck.
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