unccharlotte

From what I have seen, Elon is better academically. Carolina has a better athletic department. Tough choice.

team_venture

How can you say Elon is better academically? Their strengths are business and theatre, and Chapel Hill has one of the best business schools in the country, so I guess Elon's only advantage is theatre. And as for every other academic concentration, Chapel Hill is stronger than Elon.

I think you're just harboring some resentment over your rejection from Chapel Hill

unccharlotte

Carolina is getting closer to Elon academically. JMHO

ns347

then are u saying UNC is getting worse?

seriously though, u can't compare the two.

unccharlotte

Carolina's basketball team is getting better. Thus, athlectically Carolina's team is better than Elon's. Academically, by contrast, Elon is far better. Jmho.

team_venture

Are you gonna give reasons why?

ns347

Elon:
* The Education Trust recognizes Elon for excellence in freshman retention and outstanding graduation rates
* The Fiske Guide to Colleges ranks Elon one of 28 "best buy" private universities
* Kiplinger's Personal Finance ranks Elon # 1 in the "total costs category" among the nation's top 50 best value private universities
* Newsweek-Kaplan named Elon the hottest college in the nation for student engagement in its 2006 guide
* U.S.News & World Report ranks Elon # 3 among southern master's-level universities


UNC:
U.S. News & World Report Magazine, 2007 Edition

* Fifth among the nation's top public universities and 27th overall among both public and private campuses. Among public campuses, the University of California at Berkeley ranked first, followed in a tie for second by the universities of Michigan at Ann Arbor and Virginia. The University of California at Los Angeles was fourth, followed by UNC at fifth for the sixth consecutive year. These same five campuses have either traded or tied for the top five slots in the U.S. News public campus category over the past several years.

* Among undergraduate business programs, the Kenan-Flagler Business School ranked fifth nationwide.

* In other U.S. News rankings, Kenan-Flagler Business School tied for fifth with the New York University and the University of Texas at Austin among undergraduate business degree programs. Kenan-Flagler tied for third among public campuses. Kenan-Flagler was listed fifth for marketing and tied for fifth in productions/operations management. Other specialties ranked were management (fourth) and marketing (fifth).

* UNC ranked first among national public campuses and ninth overall in "Great Schools, Great Prices," based on a formula determining which schools offer best value by relating academic quality to the net cost of attendance for a student who receives the average level of financial aid. Another category – least debt among students – listed UNC 18th among public campuses and 22nd overall with 34 percent of graduates posting an average debt totaling $13,801 in 2005.

* U.S. News included Carolina in a category called "programs to look for" -- highlighting outstanding examples of academic programs that lead to student success.

* Carolina was listed among 15 campuses, including four publics, with exemplary senior capstone experiences. Such honors programs permit students to create a special senior project integrating what they have learned. Carolina was among 40 public and private campuses cited for their first-year experiences programs, which include first-year seminars and other programs bringing small groups of students together with faculty and staff on a regular basis. UNC was one of 18 public campuses selected.

Links: UNC News Release
http://www.usnews.com

jack

ns347: Great comparison post.

I would also suggest simply ignoring unccharlotte's posts. First she was a community college student and a "shoo-in" for transferring into UNC-CH. Then she was probably going to get into Harvard, too, she said, and then suddenly she got rejected as a transfer student (long before anyone else had heard); a few days later (after her apparent rejection from UNC), she decided to "withdraw her application, because," she said, "she got into another university;" after that, she posted that she had decided to stay at her CC. So I'm guessing this person is not a student anywhere, and who knows why she posts what she does, or at all. Bizarre.

unccharlotte

Elon is better academically than Carolina. IMHO

unccharlotte

Elon thrives in engineering as well as the the hard sciences. Elon has a diverse student body and small class sizes. Carolina has no engineers. U.S. News is Biased.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0412/p...egn.html?s=hns

From article:

A revolt is brewing among college presidents against the influential college rankings put out each year by U.S. News & World Report.

Dozens of schools have recently refused to fill out surveys used to calculate ranks, and efforts are now afoot for a collective boycott.

Colleges have complained in the past about the rankings. But recent events have rallied opposition, including the tying of presidential pay to ranking at Arizona State University and accusations by the president of Sarah Lawrence College that the magazine threatened to use hocus-pocus data to stand in for average SAT scores at the school.

elpope

Carolina has a much better reputation, and much better employment aspects (lots of Carolina grads in NYC, for example) than Elon, something which I can say is true for sure after going to college up north and talking to a bunch of people from here. Whenever I mention I'm from NC, Duke and UNC are the only schools brought up--hardly anybody has heard of Elon unless they have a friend going there.

Not to mention the fact that UNC has world-class profs in many areas, while Elon, well, doesn't really

unccharlotte

Elon is known internationally. Carolina, by contrast, is known, well, because of Michael Jordan. Only one in in three students at Elon is from North Carolina, and, well, all students from Carolina are from in-state. I just polled a few random people at Durham, NC (cluster sample). The poll results are as follows to the question: "Which school is better Carolina or Harvard": 3 said Harvard, and 7 said Carolina. Note: 10 people were used in the survey. My conclusion, most people thought I was talking about athletics. Well, I suppose we know what most people think is most important, which is athletics. To be like most, go to Carolina. To be like the few and the great, go to Elon. JMHO

team_venture

This is getting ridiculous. It's basically just arguing with a wall. A stupid, wrong, and stubborn wall. If everyone just ignores these ridiculous claims, they'll go away.

eadad

khizzle

It is growing more apparent that uncccharlotte has a very large ax to grind concerning UNC. I'm not sure that I have ever seen such absurd comments regarding any school, let alone UNC in the four plus years I have been active on CC.

unccharlotte

I would strongly suggest that if you are having that much difficulty dealing with rejection from UNC, you might want to seek someone to discuss your situation with rather than continuing to pour out the type of vitriol and nonsense that is making you look foolish.

Elon is a very fine school, but it is NOT UNC. My OOS D and several of her friends were accepted to Elon and offered money there as well but were rejected outright from UNC. We were not surprised at the UNC rejection because we know how high the bar is for OOS students. In the end, she and her best friend chose other options as well and are both very happy.

There is a school that is right for everyone and I hope that you find the one that will fit your needs and ultimately make you happy.

ns347

unccharlotte: I hope ur not planning to be a stats major.