2009 admission statistics - Page 2

hawkswim09 · 04-05-2009, 08:38 AM

my school stayed the same...last year we got 3 in early admission, but none in RD. this year, 1 in early (he was the only one who applied early) and 2 out of 5 in RD

kaydog · 04-05-2009, 10:28 AM

Claremarie- what part of the country are you from?

I'm from a large public school in Florida. I was surprised so few of the top students t my school apply out of state. Here we get free tuition (Bright Futures) with a 1270 SAT and 3.5, so many people think that is an amazing deal. THe ones that did applied mostly to Vandy (aid policy was announced to be a big deal), Wake (no SAT), Emory, GaTech, UNC-CH, etc. And tons of great students stay here to go to UF, FSU, etc with no applications out of state.

claremarie · 04-05-2009, 12:48 PM

kaydog,
My son's school is in the metro DC area.

aristophanes · 04-06-2009, 11:37 AM

University admits top academic class - News

HS09Parent · 04-06-2009, 03:37 PM

From the article in the previous post:

"The faltering economy was one of the reasons we admitted more students in Early Action than has been typical," he said. "We knew they were competitive and we felt it better to offer admission in December in order to give these students more time to consider Notre Dame as a college option."

But it certainly doesn't do any good for students waiting for financial aid packages. We only got ND's financial aid package last Friday! The other EA school (G'town) was only one day earlier. The "more time" was useless in our case!

MiPerson80 · 04-07-2009, 07:04 PM

this isn't a good sign that the applications only went up 3%, especially with the common application being used for the first time. I expect a big drop in the yield.

hawkswim09 · 04-08-2009, 06:30 AM

well, while i acknowledge that a 24% acceptance rate, or whatever it was - it was close to that, seems to have gone down, the article does say this was the most competitive class to apply. whether this is standard talk among admissions offices, i don't know. however, even if the yield rate is lower (and i don't think it will be by much), they have accepted 300 extra students.

MiPerson80 · 04-08-2009, 07:17 AM

the question on what the yield will be this year for ND is not just for ND, but for most of the private elite colleges , with the exception of HYPSM, with their very generous aid.

I was struck by the comment from the ND admission officer, Mundy, that decisions to go to ND were going to be decided at the last minute.....consumer psychology tells us the longer a person needs to make a decision, the more it will be negative (and also more buyer's remorse when a person decides to buy). So all the indicators are there for a significant drop in yield, they accepted more students. the % of more applicants was only 3% (even with the common app), they accepted more kids EA. This was not a good year for ND's admission cycle.

So I think parents are watching the stock market and financial news , reading that 30% of graduating ND seniors don't have jobs (as quoted in ND Magazine this week....but this number is probably the same or worse with all of the private and public schools). If we see further financial shocks, like GM filing for bankruptcy, will lead parents to push for the in state public "safe" choice.

ND's business model is that parents will need to take on debt and that kids's will need to take on about $20K in debt....and with consumer borrowing already being down substantially, will parents and kids really borrow to pay a $120K 4 year difference?
Kids can always transfer in next year, ND's acceptance rate is 38% for transfers.

I just hope this gets ND to understand that typically college costs have gone up 435% versus 95% for CPI since 1982, so this is not sustainable.

hawkswim09 · 04-08-2009, 07:51 PM

well the good news is that for people entering college now, by the time we graduate, the economy should be back on track, providing plenty of jobs... however, it is tough for those who graduate this year (30% seems like a very high number - surprising).

clairea11 · 04-10-2009, 01:17 PM

So is this good news or bad news for people on the waiting list? In the letter, it said they anticipate that 700 people will agree to stay on the waitlist.

hawkswim09 · 04-10-2009, 02:00 PM

the fact that they accepted 300 extra students is bad news.

there is no question the yield is going to be lower, but those 300 students are basically ahead of those on the waitlist. Plus with 700 students on the waitlist, that is large number.

it appears the admission staff used these 300 as a reserve and try to predict the lower yield. I am not sure how many were taken off the waitlist last year, but i would think it would be at most the same or less.

catalina21 · 04-10-2009, 02:02 PM

ahh hawkswim09 dont tell me that!!!
im trying really hard to get off the waitlist now!
im just finishing my letter and i talked to my regional officer. ND is really my top choice

clairea11 · 04-10-2009, 02:07 PM

How many do you think they will take off? 50? 100?

hawkswim09 · 04-11-2009, 08:50 AM

after looking back on my post, it does have a negative undertone. I will try to clarify a little better.

With the terrible economy, the admissions office had to accept more students. However, their yield will go down because of the economy so that means that they will probably get out of their acceptances the same number that they did last year. This means that they will go to the waitlist to fulfill the rest of the openings. I would expect that the same number get off the waitlist as last year, but I do not know the number. However, it is important to get yourself to the top of the waitlist, which it sounds like catalina21 has already started to do.

I am sure if you search ND's website you may be able to find the number off the waitlist last year.

MiPerson80 · 05-16-2009, 05:43 PM

i recall that an admissions officer told me last fall that they expected 17,000+ applications becasue of ND going to the common application, but ND's barely went up.

Any word on the yield? , it seems they are taking a lot off the waitlist.