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Old 07-02-2009, 12:17 PM   #61
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MiPerson: Just call Father Jenkins and tell him to shut the place down. I'm sure that when you explain to him that Notre Dame is on a downward spiral, and that your son is going elsewhere, he'll listen to...hm, what shall we call it?...reason?...no, there must be a better word; I just can't think of it. Anyway, I'm sure he'd love to hear from you.
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Old 07-05-2009, 10:52 PM   #62
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Notre Dame's 25 percent SAT scores are lower than Duke's and Stanford's because Notre Dame places a greater emphasis on test scores than either of those schools, and they're doing this to keep pace with the rankings. Notre Dame's "peer" score in the US News rankings (the most heavily weighted element in the formula) is the lowest among the top 25. Keeping test scores high is thus an imperative to Notre Dame maintaining the ranking.
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Old 07-06-2009, 05:29 AM   #63
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^do you mean SAT scores are HIGHER than Duke's and Stanford's ... b/c that did read right for me.
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Old 07-06-2009, 10:49 AM   #64
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That's exactly what I meant -- sorry. It's pretty obvious that ND has serious test score cutoffs.
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Old 07-06-2009, 11:02 AM   #65
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The last three posts have confused me. Say it again please.
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Old 07-06-2009, 11:08 AM   #66
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Ok. Someone asked how it could be possible that the lower of the mid-range range SAT scores reported by ND are higher than those reported by Duke and Stanford when Duke and Stanford are generally regarded as more selective. My response is that this simply means that ND places a greater emphasis on test scores than Duke and Stanford, and I'm guessing that this is because ND can't afford to be as flexible as these other schools on test scores because it needs higher test scores to balance out its lower reputational score in the U.S. News formula. Just a guess though.
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:27 PM   #67
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^ND also hurts being a Catholic institution and also b/c of its poor graduate school when compared to other schools like the ivys.
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Old 08-17-2009, 05:16 PM   #68
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Posts 1 and 54 show the total class of 2013 admissions stats and the early action admission stats for those who are considering applying to ND this fall.
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Old 08-25-2009, 11:43 PM   #69
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I'm biased but I think that Peer Assessment score is over-rated when it comes to ranking schools like Notre Dame and Georgetown. Catholic schools aren't exactly loved by most other institutions. It's the same thing when it comes to Medical School and Law School acceptances...even though the pre-med and pre-law graduates from ND score incredibly well on the MCAT and LSAT, there's a stigma against Notre Dame. It's religiously conservative beliefs preclude the student populace, as a whole, from perhaps getting into the best schools.

If anyone has any other thoughts about the PA scoring then please let me know...I could be just looking for excuses for Notre Dame not being in the top 15
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Old 09-28-2009, 01:29 AM   #70
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Moving the 2009 admission stats to the top for NDfan 41. See post 54 for EA only.
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Old 10-22-2009, 08:45 PM   #71
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Refreshing 2009 admission stats to the top.
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Old 11-03-2009, 10:47 PM   #72
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Bump to the top for Mose2014.
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:35 PM   #73
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thanks for the help!
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