MiPerson80

it looks like Northwestern's yield went down 17% this year (37% to 31%), what happend to ND's? It was 57% last year.

How much did the economy affect the yield?

y7bbb6

i think you made a typo.

MiPerson80

no typo, 31/37 =83.7%, so the yield went "down" 17%

iomr

^Percent change...

And I know I didn't matriculate if that helps

MiPerson80

we opted for another school, ND wasn't worth the $123K more, and I am an alumni

sabrina1

If you look at tthe waitlist thread, seems as though there are waitlisted individuals who are getting telephone calls, and overnight packaages. A signal?

irish68178

I am sure the economy will hit ND's yield, just like it has for ND's peer schools. ND is expensive, but it is no more expensive than its peer institutions. It isn't like they are ripping everyone off, they just don't get public funds like the public schools. For WVU, where I go to graduate school, the annual budget is 654 million dollars. If you divide that by the number of undergraduates (graduate students not included as most don't pay tuition) the total is $31,000. Not that different from ND, but WVU gets public money so it ends up being one of the most affordable public schools.

I just don't blame Notre Dame. Education is expensive now regardless of where you go. The only difference is are you paying it, or is everyone (the taxpayer) paying it.

Getty59

MiPerson

What is your data source on the Northwestern result?

Congratulations to your son and the great program at UM...I am sure it will be fantastic for him.

Getty59

FYI MiPerson -- Northwestern announced yesterday, they had 2182 kids send in deposits....and their target is 2025....so if in fact their yield is way down, they clearly admitted enough ahead of time to compensate for that.....

sabrina1

What I am saying is that will those who were originally waitlisted be included as part of the original yield? And why?

Getty59

Sabrina --

Yield formula is % of Kids enrolling divided by the number accepted.

So using "round" numbers.....ND sends acceptances to about 3700 kids and try to end up with a class of about 2100....that means they have yield of about 57%.

To contrast, Boston College sent out acceptances to about 7800 people to achieve a class of about 2300......a yield of about 29%.

Some of the national rating systems (USNews, Princeton Review) have a "selectivity" factor which is entering freshman class divided by the number of applications received.....so in that case, BC looks highly selective since they get some 30,000 applications....so their selectivity is about 7.7%.

As for waitlist, anyone offered off the wait list gets added to their eventual yield percents...which is why all the advice is to make sure you let the school know you will definitely accept if offered. The school does not want to make four phone calls on the wait list to fill one spot.

sabrina1

well put
thank you
congrtulations to all