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Old 06-20-2012, 02:21 PM   #1
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Which math class?

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I was wondering which math class I should sign up for Math 103 or Stat 101 in terms of usefulness(I plan on minoring in econ) and how harsh the curve is.Thanks!
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Old 06-20-2012, 06:05 PM   #2
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Hi @rundmc!

I don't know anything about your math background so I can't recommend anything for certain. However, if you have never taken calc, then I would def take math 103. Many students struggle with econ simply because they don't have the math background/skills so I think 103 would be helpful if you have absolutely no calc experience. I definitely think stat 101 is more applicable in science/business/other areas in general so I would take that if you feel that you already have a solid math background. I have no idea about the stat 101 curve but I believe that the math 103 curve is decent despite what many others may say. I started with math 114 (which is also part of the undergraduate series) and I remember that over 50% of students got some form of an A. I think that the 103 curve is prob a little harsher than that but still decent overall.
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:56 PM   #3
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In order to take ECON courses beyond intro level, you need to have completed up to at least MATH114
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Old 06-21-2012, 12:09 AM   #4
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Stat 101 is a Wharton course. The College equivalent would be Stat 111. Both are intro stat courses, though Stat 101 claims to have a more business-focus. Both Stat 101 and 111 fulfill the same Quantitative Analysis requirement.

Math 103 is probably more useful because it's a pre-req for 104 which is a pre-req for 114. If you're going to minor in Econ, you'll need 114.

A lot of people take both Math 103/104/114 and Stat 111 in the College to fulfill the formal reasoning requirement and the quant. analysis requirement.
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Old 06-22-2012, 02:10 PM   #5
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if you wanna take stat101 (wharton's intro to business stat) then you need math104 as a prerequisite. But if you wanna take stat111, CAS's intro to statistics, then you don't need any college level math as a prereq
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Old 06-24-2012, 01:44 AM   #6
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So.....Math 103, then Math 104, then Math 114+Stat 101/111 to take more advanced econ?

Also, if say...I eventually decide to dual major CAS+Wharton....would Stat 111 suffice for the Stat 104 requirement for Wharton? If not, can I take Stat 104 but not be a Wharton student?

Thank you to all of those who have answered my questions and those who will be answering my questions
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Old 06-24-2012, 11:26 AM   #7
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You can generally take 4 classes total outside of the school you are in, so you would take up to 4 Wharton classes over your 4 years if you are in CAS.
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Old 06-25-2012, 01:59 AM   #8
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So.....Math 103, then Math 104, then Math 114+Stat 101/111 to take more advanced econ?
Basically, yes. But keep in mind that taking Math 103, then 104, then 114 (or 115) is not optional if you're going to minor or major in Econ; it's a requirement.

Whether you take Stat 101 or Stat 111 is really your choice. They both fulfill the same requirement and are more similar than they are different (case in point, I took Stat 101 and my professor advised us to consult the Stat 111 textbook occasionally to review some concepts). People generally tend to agree that Stat 101 is a little more challenging, if only because of the curve, though.

I would say that it is a good idea to take Stat 101 instead of 111 if you're planning on dual degreeing or transferring to Wharton. If you don't end up getting in or decide against that plan, then at least it still fulfills your quant. requirement. If you do end up getting into Wharton, then you've already completed one of Wharton's requirement. The only disadvantage to taking 101 rather than 111 is that 101 is a little tougher. I wouldn't say it's much tougher, though. Stat is stat.
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