To all those accepted students, or people wanting to apply for Penn Engineering, I can offer you some advice/answers on the different aspects of the school within Penn. You can ask about some other stuff from the other schools, but I may not know all of the details. I will try my best to answer your questions.
Hi! So I want to do Jerome Fischer(Business/Engineering right?), but waay into Engineering. Uh, some background, spent like 40h/week in Robotics lab during buildseason, have a lot of experience in Programming (Got a paid job+stock options at a startup) and a lot of experience with Mechanical. Given that, if I get in should I try out Electric or go with what I know? Also, how is the mechanical? It's my top choice but the machine shop wasn't as well-equiped as say, Princeton's. Also, how much access do undergrads have to stuff like CNC/laser cutter for pet projects (or class projects). What CAD/CAM software do you guys primarily use? If I decide to go straight up engineering, no double major, is UPenn the right school for me? I loved the people and the architecture, wasn't a huge fan of the machine shop-you guys had a tap guide though which was pretty cool (Robotics program kicks but obv. but for undergrad I'm not sure if it's a good pick). If I have a lot of engineering experience already, and know Physics/Chem etc. is there an opportunity to fast track some stuff?
Questions were sort of jumbled together, hope structure isn't important - I'm one of the people that holds programmers who appreciate intuitive interfaces in disdain and puts the self-destruct setting for laser shooters in between the on and off controls. Or maybe I'm just excited to talk to a UPenn Engineer.
Hey, excuse me for the late answer. So if you would want to an engineering major with wharton, M&T of course, it will depend on the majors you choose. The major chosen most by M&T's are systems engineering, followed by CIS/Computer Engineering, then electrical, mechanical, and so forth. Anything past mechanical would probably be really harsh on your schedule, as you would want to find classes that would work best with your M&T schedule.
In your case, an electrical engineer would work a lot with computer science, as you would want your gadgets and whatnot to work with the respective language. Mechanical Eng will work a lot in the shops and labs, and may less cross-listed requirements for the M&T program. In my perspective, it seems that M&T's would rather prefer electrical, due to the amount of computer science it utilizies, and that computer science would look great for skills. Mechanical engineering would be more classes, but it seems that majority of the students are sastified with what they learn. M&T's have a general trend with going in a consulting job with their respective major, but some do start-up companies.
I'm not exactly sure about the mechanical engineering rank, and its obviously not the best in the nation, but the curriculum seems favorable towards engineers (besides systems) in SEAS alone, because its also managble to get a BSE/MSE in 5 years. They do have access to laser cutters, as they also use solidworks a lot for their projects. And the thing that goes hand to hand with mechancial engineering, is that business electives, like econ and consulting, can fulfill a lot of requirements in the curriculum. With this being said, a lot of mechanical engineers actually do consulting, rather than research/technology. And you mentioned something about robotics, Robotics is actually a master's degree, so that if you wanted to submatriculate(BSE/MSE in 5 years) with either EE or ME, it would work out pretty well. ME labs are alright, but the GRASP lab (robotics) at Penn has a lot of great reviews and, if not the best, one of the best labs in the Penn Engineering Building. A good amount of people have engineering/classes experience, so you will be a level above, but you won't be like the genius like in high school.
Just tips to get in, just focus on what means to you, in terms of ECs, commitment, and your community service. Sorry if it's been a while since I applied, but since GPA and SAT's are basically over, just make sure you put in the right recommendations and work up that essay. If you want to elaborate more on the app, just post again
Chemical Engineering is known as the hardest major in Engineering, due to the amount of requirements and difficulty of classes. Just to throw it out there; in the first year, it is hard for everyone, because the intro class averages are very low, like chem 101 with averages of C-C+, and my entire calc 3(linear algebra/vector calc) class had an overall average of D. But besides the point, I am not entirely sure of chemical engineering from this point on, as I only took one CBE major class so far, but students have said that even though it was hard, it was worth learning the material. Chemical Engineering supposedly has the best chances of landing jobs/internships in the job market, because of the broad field/demand.
We have this organization called Center for Undergraduate and Research Fellowships (CURF), which helps students a lot with finding research positions, and providing research grants upon applying. In Chemical Engineering, people do not only have to research in the Chemical Engineering laboratories, because other researchers, like cancer research students or Penn Med Students can research biotechnology, which is one research area in the field.
I do see majority of the engineers do some kind of research/workshop/internship here. There are a lot of opportunities for one to participate in these, and like i said up there, some do business internships, for consulting experience, but they mostly will work in the laboratories here during their undergrad.
^ I should've clarified, the 240 class i took was in the summer session, and its taught by a grad student. The uncurved average was a D, and they used the same grading scale, with 33% A's, 33% B', 33% C's. The average was near the median, where the median was 67, so that person wouldve gotten a B-B- with their D.
Do you know how difficult the chemistry placement exams are? I took AP chemistry my junior year and got a 5, and I feel like I know the material really well. I hope to test out of Chem 101 and 102 (I'll be majoring in bioengineering).
With the way you put it, it seems that you should be fine. It sucks that you can't place out without taking the test, but if you already have a 5 with good knowledge, then it shouldnt be too difficult. It's worth it in the end, because you dont want to be stuck with the horrible curves in those classes, when they also throw in extra information not covered in AP chem.
Forgot to add, bioengineers still have to do that year of organic chemistry, so make sure you regard your schedule to fulfill these requirements. A sample curriculum for Bioengineers are here BE - BSE Sample Curriculum
How is the freshman year courseload in terms of manageability. How many days out of the week did you have class because the course curriculum said I would have to take Physics I Calc I Gen Chem I Intro to Biotech and an elective which seems like a great elective but also time consuming. Also how tough is Gen Chem because I took AP Chem in my Junior year but dont remember everything and I love Chem so I wouldnt mind taking it again