yournamehere

Wharton Advisor,

Is junior year more important or senior year more important? i mean if i take more APs my senior year and if hypothetically (only hypothetically) i apply ED, do i send in the first semester grades or something?

WhartonAdvisor

yourname - I would not recommend taking Accounting during high school. Wharton wants students who take the most rigorous curriculum available to them, which we consider things like AP/IB/Honors courses, NOT high school-level business classes.

bernard - You should be fine. If you are concerned about things not arriving on time, contact your Regional Director to let them know something is coming.

sak - it's impossible to make those types of predictions. If you have concerns, contact your Regional Director.

ponnan - Wharton requires calculus during high school, which means anytime from 9-12.

yournamehere

Wharton advisor,
all my classes next year will be either AP or Honors. Accounting would be just an "add-on". do you still think i shouldn't take it?

my schedule next year would probably look like this:
-AP English 11
-AP world history
-APbio/APchem/Honors physics (i will choose 2 of the 3, possibly H Phys and AP bio if the school change its mind and offer it to juniors)
-honors french 4 (my school recently got rid of the AP french 4 course for no reason)
Honors Precal BC

sansan

WhartonAdvisor

I'm from Ontario, canada
my public high school does not offer AP/IB/Honor,
so I can't take Calculus BC

will that hurt my chance in terms of how wharton views my math ability and the level of curriculum?

and also, Ontario Department of Education is taking away calculus from high school math curriculum...@_@ there is nothing i can do about it, not even fast tracking because all students in my grade are BANNED from taking it ...

so what should i do?


--worried sansan =(

CaseBusiness

Dear Advisor,

Not sure if you had a chance to read my post (bottom of page 9) but in summary two questions:

First, will Wharton consider transfer applicants without calculus? (I understand it is an integral part of the wharton school and would be most pleased to obtain the credits prior to admission)

Secondly, as a Canadian sophomore with a 3.98 gpa (99th percentile) and having graduated first from my school school (and second in the city) how much would Wharton weigh a less than stellar SAT performance from highschool?

WhartonAdvisor

sansan - you need to have some level of Calculus. If your school doesn't have an AP/IB/honors program, you should take what calculus is available to you. If they are banning calculus all together, you should talk to your Regional Director about what your options are.

case - we prefer to admit transfers who have all of the prerequisite courses. There have been occassions where students have been admitted and then had to take a course at Penn over the summer. However this is the exception, not the rule so it's definitely to your advantage to have the required courses done.

The farther out of high school you get, the more emphasis we place on college performance. It's impossible to say how much things are weighed versus others. Admissions is not an exact science. If you have questions, you should contact Transfer Admissions and speak to an admissions officer.

sansan

thank you!

impboy89

whartonadvisor, as an extremely anxious deferred applicant for the class of 2011 i was wondering if you could answer a few questions to relieve some of my stress. and by the way, i applied to SEAS, not wharton, but i figure you might still be able to relieve some tension.

1.) roughly 1 in 8 deferred applicants are accepted in the RD round. is there anything super special that gets those applicants accepted after being deferred. i sent a letter to penn expressing my continued interest, sent them an update of my accomplishments, and sent them my midyear report.

2.) how important exactly are midyear reports when it comes to making a final decision on a deferred applicant (as compared to the rest of the deferred applicants application, which has already been reviewed once)?

3.) can a deferred applicant be waitlisted?

4.) my mom went to penn vet, so i had legacy considerations in the ED round. since i am a deferred legacy that has expressed continued interest and said that penn is still my first choice school in my letter to my regional director, will i still receive legacy considerations through the RD review of applications by the adcom, or does my legacy count for nothing anymore?

5.)how are deferred applications reviewed the second time around? does the adcom look specifically for something that makes it different from what it was in the ED round, or do they review the entire application again on a clean slate?

6.) finally, do you know if it is a common practice for applicants to "backdoor" into penn by applying to SEAS and then hoping to transfer to either the college or wharton? as you might understand, i am quite worried about the 17% increase of apps to the engineering school.

thank you for your time whartonadvisor!

cathedra

impboy89, let me try to tackle 3 and 4:

3. Yes. "Final letters announcing admission decisions for regular applicants and applicants deferred in December are sent in early April. Candidates receive one of three possible decisions: Admit, Wait-List, or Deny."
http://www.admissionsug.upenn.edu/applying/regular.php

4. While legacy status weighs the most in ED, you still get some credit after you are deferred into RD. Your having sent in a "deferred letter" could also help.

Is the legacy tie considered at all during regular decision?
Yes. Family affiliation with Penn is noted in all undergraduate applications - Early Decision, Regular Decision, and Transfer.
http://www.alumni.upenn.edu/aca/faq.html#a2

Good luck and chill!

bernardolw

Regarding Answer 3...

In the decision letter that deferrees receive it specifically stated that we might either get admitted or denied during RD. It said nothing about being wait-listed. Are you sure we can get wait-listed? (I know in says on that website)

cathedra

bernardolw, I emailed Penn asking about deferred status generally, and this is a quote from their reply:

"there is no prejudice between deferred candidates and the Regular Decision candidates."

Although I'm not sure being waitlisted is necessarily a benefit, I would take this response to mean that deferred condidates can be waitlisted as well.

WhartonAdvisor

Deferred candidates cannot be waitlisted. You are either admitted or denied.

There's no real secret here, and you may not like this answer, but you need to have stood out in ED pool and still stand out in the RD pool. And yes, a lot of things factor in to that, but they are the same things that mattered the first time around.

cathedra

Thanks for the clarification, WhartonAdvisor.

aroundtheworld

Dear Wharton advisor,

I will be an undergrad next year and would love to work as a language tutor in either Spanish or French for Lauder. Is this a job that is reserved only for Whartonites (I will be attending the College)? Is it reserved for grad students? I know the language center has other opportunities but I do prefer the Lauder program.

Thank you very much!

WhartonAdvisor

around - I'm not sure what the criteria is for hiring tutors for the Lauder program. I didn't even realize they had tutors since theoretically the students should be fluent in a language by the time they apply. You can contact the program directly to find out, but my guess is that they don't hire undergrads to be tutors. You can always tutor in a language through Penn's Tutoring Center though.