Percy Skivins

Wizard -

this page gives some of the 2006 answers:

http://www.businessweek.com/bschools...s/wharton1.htm

For 2007, Wharton applications are up 13% to around 5500 but the number accepted would have remained about the same, so you can figure some of the rest from there. ED chances around 20%, RD around 9 or 10%. Deferred chances slim, waitlist chances virtually none.

WhartonAdvisor

1MX - There are over 200 varsity athletes in Wharton, so yes you can definitely play spring football and be successful academically. All of the advisors in my office work with athletes, and we work directly with the Athletics department to make sure that you are taking the right courses and the right course load depending on when you are in season, etc. I know a lot of athletes now in a number of different varsity sports and I knew some as a student as well. All of them are doing fine - the biggest struggle is always time management, not competition! Running of the Bulls is SO overhyped. The truth is that there is so much group work in Wharton that students can't afford to be that competitive with one another. The competition is really more within yourself than anything else.

Topdawg - You can do a dual degree with Wharton if you do the prereqs and have a high enough GPA. After you get in, how long it takes depends on how many AP credits you have, how many classes you are willing to take per semester, and whether or not you are willing to take summer school. We don't focus a lot on how many people apply for DD or TR because we only count who has a 3.4 or higher as an applicant, when in reality a lot more people than that want to apply.

legendofmax

As fun as group work is, I have major gripes with it sometimes. It does not encourage people to be super competitive with each other, but it seems to encourage laziness at times. I can't count the number of times I've been on a team where the members simply crap out because they end up relying on you to pull the rest of the team through.

Wharton11

Question for WhartonAdvisor or whoever can help me....I looked through this message board and saw that hopeful2007 kept talking about transferring and kept getting answers that said he had a really low chance of it happening.

Well I wanted to ask if it's possible to get in without any leadership such as Pres. or VP in hs or first year of college [since it's really hard to start a club]. What if all i have are really good SAT scores, AP scores, community service hours, and good first year college grades?

legendofmax

There are so few spots -- it's really competitive. All the external transfers I know had near-perfect GPA's coming in (a lot of the external transfers I've met had like 3.9 and 4.0 GPA's), and were pretty active in some way over at their other college. It's certainly possible to transfer externally but it's just extremely difficult -- it's like going through freshman admissions and then cutting those "pre-admitted" down to an even smaller group. I can only think of maybe one external transfer that seemed to be an exception, in the sense that he/she didn't do any activities or have a relatively competitive GPA (maybe like 3.4 or 3.5).

I mean, as an internal transfer, I go to a MGMT course that is made specifically for all internal/external transfer students, and most of these guys are the same people I've noticed from freshman year (I can only think of maybe... 4 externals off the top of my head from my class that I've met personally. One from UMich, one from NYU, one from Georgetown, and one from Arkansas). There just aren't that many spots for externals but it doesn't hurt to try.

Percy Skivins

I think the Wh. Advisor said at one point that it was something like 25 externals/year .

legendofmax

Yeah, but I *think* that includes both sophomore and junior transfers.

Wharton11

Thanks for that info guys. I guess i better keep my senior grades high and do something business-y or leadership-y this summer and keep my college GPA high.
I m just afraid that I might end up nowhere if I major in Economics from Rutgers, so I might take the technical route and do engineering major/econ minor but when i wont be able to have a decent reason for transferring to wharton....so confusing

Venkat89

^Or you could try to ace Econ at Rutgers and go on to a PhD in Econ if you have the grades and GRE. Besides, a Wharton degree means nothing if you can't perform in the real world, where as a Rutgers degree means nothing if you get into a top MBA program.

ProcrastiNate

WhartonAdviser,
you mentioned how the admissions people take into account whether or not you're a good fit for the specific school you're applying to
I'm a really business oriented person, own a couple businesses, etc, but I'm leaning towards applying to CAS. will my businesss side hurt my chance of acceptance at cas?

Venkat89

^Just explain really well why you want a liberal arts degree and why you don't wish to study business until you're older. It's the people who talk about Wharton in their "Why Penn" essays in great detail who are considered trying to backdoor.

jai6638

Hello WhartonAdviser,

I was waitlisted at Penn and wanted to send a letter to the admissions office with some new information and activities that I have taken part in. Whom would I email this to? THe admissions website does not seem to have an email for the office.

Thanks

theoneo

WhartonAdvisor (or anyone else who knows), can courses double count for a minor in the College and a concentration/breadth req in Wharton?

ProcrastiNate

i'm pretty sure they do, i remember someone saying that they only needed to take one course to get a math minor

mattwonder

Realistically, it varies. It really depends on which Wharton concentration you want, and what minor you want. Generally, a concentration course won't double count.

Wharton does require "global" courses, science courses, and some liberal arts courses. A thrifty student could align it to match up these with a college minor.