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Old 07-27-2006, 09:45 AM   #61
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Excel - of course there is a more in-depth analysis of each applicant. Boxes is right - the process is very holistic, thorough and looks at the entire applicant. You should contact your Regional Director if you have questions about the admissions process.
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Old 07-27-2006, 09:47 AM   #62
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Penn Student - there is certainly something to be said for graduating from college with more than one degree (regardless of what those two degrees are). Anyone in one of our specialized joint degree programs is going to be highly regarded but I can't comment on how big of a difference or an advantage it actually is because I'm not a recruiter. I would recommend looking at the Career Services website for the Salary and Survey reports.
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Old 07-27-2006, 10:21 AM   #63
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Is there a Regional Director for German applicants? If yes, how can I contact him?
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Old 07-27-2006, 02:51 PM   #64
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You should look online on the Admissions website. http://www.admissionsug.upenn.edu/contact/

Their phone numbers are listed there - if you want an email address you will need to call the number listed to request it.
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Old 07-27-2006, 02:56 PM   #65
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WhartonAdvisor: how long does it take the adcom to make decisions if the applicants are admitted or rejected? Do they do additional things?
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Old 07-27-2006, 09:46 PM   #66
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Thank you WhartonAdvosir and username 321 for your advice.
I spoke to some of my friends who already graduated from Wharton and from the M+T program, they mentioned that taking 2 degrees reduces the number of extra electives one can take? In addition, by doing the M+T, one would be able to take only 4-5 Wharton concentration focus courses apart from business fundamentals classes. Don't you feel that you will miss out on several other higher level wharton courses (something that Wharton and its faculty is known around the world for!) that one can otherwise take? Since Wharton also allows a minor in Math or in Computer Science, isn't that quantitative enough?
I would like if people and also WhartonAdvisor could share their views on this. Thanks alot.
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Old 07-27-2006, 09:58 PM   #67
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of course you will have to go less indepth in both of your degrees if you are planning to do two in the time it usually takes to do one, but that's the tradeoff. It's just your own personal taste
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Old 07-28-2006, 10:22 AM   #68
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Exactly what the previous poster said. It's a trade-off. If you're truly interested in engineering, you should be more than willing to drop a few potential wharton classes for SEAS classes. Anyways, at the risk of upsetting WhartonAdvisor...

Here's a big hint for you. A lot of what you learn in college you learn the night before a test, regurgitate it, and forget it. Even if you learn it throughout the semester continuously, odds are 2-3 years later when you graduate you will forget the majority of it. Employers know this and train you starting from scratch. While the great faculty are good for grad students who work directly WITH them, a student being TAUGHT by them gets less benefit (NPV is NPV regardless of who teaches it). The point of college is to teach you how to think. So take a few case-based classes and you'll be fine.
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Old 07-28-2006, 01:39 PM   #69
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Collegebound - you should ask those specific questions to a Regional Director.

Pennstudent - I agree with the other posters. Joint degree programs aren't for everyone. If you want to go more indepth in either area, a dual degree might be better. Or if you're only slightly interested in one area, consider just taking classes in the other discipline or getting a minor (although Wharton doesn't give minors). The joint degree programs are going to be more structured, and that is something you should take into consideration while also realizing that you leave here with TWO degrees as a part of a very prestigious group of students.

Username - that didn't upset me. I graduated from college 4 years ago and it's true that I've forgotten a lot of the details. I do think that Wharton grads have an advantage going into their first jobs because they are typically way ahead of non-business students in their understanding (even after training). It also depends on what you go into though.
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Old 07-28-2006, 01:41 PM   #70
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I asked to speak with my regional director (Kathryn Bezella) and nobody knew who she was.
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Old 07-28-2006, 03:53 PM   #71
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They literally JUST hired people, I am not even sure when they officially begin their first day of work. You should give her a month or so to adjust as she may not be able to answer your questions since they haven't gone through training yet.
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Old 07-28-2006, 04:33 PM   #72
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I've heard from several sources that Ivy coaches recruit "boosters" that are athletically decent but academically great, say, val+4.0+2250+, to sort of increase the average of the recruited athletes. Is this true for UPenn? I'm a decent 100m dasher, 11.0 sec, it never occurred to me that I could get recruited, but if this "booster" story is true, I might have a chance?
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Old 07-28-2006, 05:17 PM   #73
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if this "booster story" that pearfire is referring to, then the student have to contact the coach in order to find out if he/she is quailified as a "booster" for the team?
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Old 07-28-2006, 06:52 PM   #74
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huh? doesn't m&t have less required classes than a regular seas+wharton?
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Old 07-29-2006, 05:14 PM   #75
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pearfire, if you think you can improve to 10.7-10.8 you shouldn't have a hard time getting recruited and getting admitted as an athlete, which is a lot easier
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