username321

I know of one kid who transferred in. His GPA wasn't spectacular by any means. Transferring into the College/SEAS is FAR less competitive than transferring into Wharton.

valecollegorian

u just have to plan well and complete enough prereq so the committee see that you'll graduate on time, if u want to transfer to seas.

the minimum gpa for doubling with wharton (for someone already is seas) is around 3.6 - 3.7. That's the minimum u need for application. I heard they cut-off change from semester to semester because they limit the number of people who get in.

midmo

Wharton advisor: A few questions: Does the M/T degree leave a graduating student in a good position to apply for graduate programs in engineering? Also, is the M/T program usually completed in four years? Are students who enter with very strong math and science backgrounds (three semesters of college calc, differential equations and three AP sciences, all 5) given a chance to test out of required basic courses?

abhim89

I guess it really depends weather you are going to do a BSE (accredited) degree or a BAS degree. For graduate programs in engineering, I would imagine that a BSE degree would be recommended (as you get a greater technical background) Even then, from what I have heard, completing an M&T program in 4 years may require you to take as many as 6 units per semester. Your previous experience may help your reduce that though...

theworld8905

wow that's a lot of classes for a semester. I heard of people not being able to handle 5 and had to drop one. Is it true that for people who are going for joint degrees, that they might have as many as 7 classes a semester?

MichaelJ

BSE SEAS / BSE Wharton requires a crazy time commitment. a LOT more than BAS, not just in terms of the number of courses but because the inflexibility of the cirriculum allows less double counting

Obviously the extra time helps, as well as summer courses. The best way though is just to have a buttload of AP credits =P.

On another note, I was looking at the career survey for 2005 and I noticed 2 people with 3 degrees, from CAS, SEAS, and wharton... one was finance, bioengineering, IR, and the other was Finance, individualized, and econ

WOW

theworld8905

how many years did it take those people to recieve those 3 degrees?

MichaelJ

i have no clue

abhim89

Here is a PDF of what a Jerome Fisher BSE/BSE program looks like:

http://www.upenn.edu/fisher/curriculum/sample2.pdf

In regards to what courses/requirements can be double-counted, how this type of curriculum varies with your engineering major, weather you are double concentrating with Wharton (which is possible, but difficult i presume), I have no idea how many total units this would be.

Here are some pertinent quotes from the M&T website: "The majority of M&T students complete the program in four years...The majority of M&T students take five to six courses per term".

Are there any M&T or SEAS/Wharton dual majors out there who can elaborate on the length of study required?

username321

Length of study depends on the engineering major/AP credits/how many classes you are willing to take each semester. A BSE in systems is quite doable in 4 years. Other majors tend to be more difficult. However, if you can test out of a decent amount of classes, then things may be a bit easier.

username321

Also, the finance/indiv/econ degree has to be the most pointless thing I've ever heard of. The indiv major was almost certainly financial engineering or something similar. So, in essence, the person satisfied the gen reqs of 3 schools while studying the same thing (relatively) in all 3 schools just to get 3 degrees.

MichaelJ

do you really think finance and econ study similar things? I am not so sure. the finance, bioengin, IR is very impressive though, so disparate but they point to awesome career possibilities

username321

Courses like behavioral finance are the same thing as studying the (ir)rationality of consumers. FIN101 is macro-econ (with a couple new topics added). While the subjects are not completely similar, there is enough overlap from both to make a financial engineering degree almost complete just by majoring in those two. Also, the jobs available to both tend to be almost identical.

abhim89

What type of SEAS degree, BAS or BSE, do most M&T and SEAS+W people do? I know something like systems may be easier to complete with Wharton, but are there people doing engineering majors like Bioeng or Chem/BioMolec?

username321

Oh, there are people doing all types of majors. It's just that systems have the easiest time graduating in 4 years. All of the "real" engineering majors (a joke typically thrown at systems majors) need to spend at least 1 summer (or a semester/year if you're looking to complete a 2nd concentration/2nd major/various minor) to complete a BSE.

I'd look into the curiculums for those majors specifically though. If I remember correctly, BE has a pretty rigid curiculum making graduating in 4 pretty difficult. I'm not really sure about Chem. And, if you're considering chem, I recommend you look into MSE. Initially it is similar to chem but it branches off as the curiculum progresses. Penn has a very strong nanotech program making MSE a popular choice for many.