WhartonAdvisor

Sorry everyone, I have been away on vacation! I'll try to answer what questions it looks like I missed.

Daz405 - You should definitely take a MATH SAT II. Which level you take is dependent on your math ability. If you have specific concerns, talk to your regional director of admissions.

Chaotic - You should just look at the Penn Application where this is explained, though what MichaelJ said is correct.

Gxing - Joint degrees are specialized programs with more prescribed curriculums. Dual Degrees are essentially your own individualized program since you determine the major and courses all on your own. Dual degrees also require more credits. Joint degree programs also carry a certain weight with their names (ie Huntsman and M&T). But at the end of the day, both get you two degrees (for the price of one) and that's an impressive accomplishment either way.

Regarding the process. You find out at the same time as everyone else in the ED round if you selected to be considered ED. Your decision for the WH single degree is not affected in any way by the fact that you applied to Huntsman. They are two separate admissions pools.

Einnoc - you are correct. The majority of Wharton alums do NOT go back for an MBA. We do surveys of our alumni 5, 10, and 15 years out and find that for all of those groups only about 35% will ever go back for an MBA. So if they realized at some point that they needed one in 0-15 years, they would have gone back to get one. However, this does NOT mean that a Wharton undergrad degree = MBA. An MBA is not just a degree, it also signifies that a person has a significant amount of work experience. So for instance, Wharton seniors get hired as analysts while Wharton MBAs get hired as associates. You don't compete for the same jobs because you have different levels of work experience. Academically, however, undergrads take many of the same courses as MBA students (quite a few being EXACTLY the same).

Sorry I'll try to answer the rest later!

WhartonAdvisor

Does the M/T degree leave a graduating student in a good position to apply for graduate programs in engineering?
- It's probably best to speak directly with the M&T Program Office about this. However, I have known a couple of M&Ts (in my less than 2 years in this office) that have actually submatriculated into graduate engineering programs at Penn (meaning they started graduate work as college seniors). But you should ask the M&T Office about how many go on to graduate school. I'm guessing that most probably go straight into the work force.

Also, is the M/T program usually completed in four years?
Yes, M&T (as Huntsman) are designed to be 4 year programs. How quickly YOU complete the degree will depend on how many AP credits you come in with, how many classes you take each semester, and how well you plan your courses (to allow for double counting).

Are students who enter with very strong math and science backgrounds (three semesters of college calc, differential equations and three AP sciences, all 5) given a chance to test out of required basic courses?
- To some degree... You can use AP scores to place out of certain classes like Bio, Chem, Physics, and Calc. Some departments also have placement tests - I know that Bio and Chem and Math do, but beyond that I'm not sure.

midmo

Wharton advisor, thank you for the info.

indicaclan

I realize that a double legacy at PENN will help me if I ED apply to the liberal arts school, but how are legacies looked at in wharton? My father went to the engineering school and my grandfather went to wharton. Does wharton have as much of a lenient approach towards legacies as the liberal arts school does, or will the legacies have much less influence at wharton? Thanks and have a nice day.

WhartonAdvisor

Indicaclan - you should ask an admissions officer, since they see the legacy candidates for all four undergraduate schools and can give you a comparison (if any exists).

indicaclan

Would the person I am given a legacy interview with be an admissions officer, or should i just call the college?

WhartonAdvisor

No, the people who conduct the legacy interviews on campus are not admissions officers. You should call the Office of Undergraduate Admissions and ask to speak to the Regional Director for your area. Their contact information is all online.

realitysucks

WhartonAdvisor, I am VERY interested in the Huntsman Program. Are the majority of them accepted ED? Also, for the language requirement, what target score on the SAT2 are they looking for?

Thanks

sansan

Hi Wharton advisor

i have a question about international student policies at the program
i know wharton offers a lot of summer internship opportunities, but are they open to international students (namely canadian permanent resident/citizen)? can we apply? will we be rejected for our citizen status?

does intership count as working off campus? what kind of limitation / requirement is there?

thank you!

WhartonAdvisor

Reality - I recommend that you email the Huntsman Program directly with your questions. You can call 215-898-2058.

Sansan - for information about internships, please consult the Office of Career Services. You can visit their website or call 215-898-7531. The information and requirements for internships will vary from job to job.

kennyk616

Dear Wharton Advisor,

for the special program M&T, I understand that they focus on the integration. However, are people in a pure engineering program go more in depth than studetns in M&T? Besides, do the vast majority of the students focus more on business more than engineering? I'm seriously considering M&T, but for me it's engineering>business, but I would imagine that in M&T it's business>engineering?

Besides, do M&T prepare students well to go to top engineering grad schools? (Like MIT, Stanford, Caltech...and the likelies)

Thanks!

WhartonAdvisor

Hi Kenny,

I recommend that you contact the M&T office or post a message in the general forum - there are a bunch of M&T students on CC.

M&T students do go on to graduate school - a number of them actually submatriculate into Penn's masters programs in engineering. But the program office should have more complete statistics to give you.

suppasonic

Does Penn ever request the 1st quarter grades of ED applicants?

bernardolw

WhartonAdvisor: Can I submit SAT II in Spanish even though it is my first language? Will that affect me? I took other subject tests but SAT II Spanish was my highest one.

Of what I understand, you consider only the two highest scores. So SAT II in Spanish Lang. is going to be one of them right?

Thanks.

CaseBusiness

Hi Wharton Advisor,

I'd be interested in taking my SATs and applying for transfer to Wharton but I'm still undecided if that is possible based on the below.

Academically, I graduated first in my high school, second in the city and currently have a 3.98 GPA at the University of Western Ontario. One of the 26 National Scholarship recipients and one of 50 students across campus enrolled in a self-designed degree module with pre-acceptance to the Richard Ivey School of Business next year. In my course overload first year I researched corporate change management with an Associate Dean.

Extra-curricularly, my involvements range from founding a mentorship program for our laureate chapter, managing a campus residence's finances to leading a national financial literacy charity. Last summer I was an intern at Canada’s largest investment bank. I really wanted to experience Wharton’s atmosphere; the exceptional peers and distinguished faculty.

I don't know whether any of that would be the basis of a competitive application but I do seem to lack 2 credits; a calculus and I believe possibly a calculus based statistics course (I presume calculus based statistics course would mean university and not high school calculus). Would Wharton entertain offering conditional admission pending the credits in the summer (@ Penn or here)? Or would I not be qualified not seek admissions.

Feel free to PM me or reply here.